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Old 04-25-2020, 09:30 AM
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Question for PSA pilots.
We have recently been inundated with applications from pilots we know are with various airlines looking for flying work while they sit out the Covid-19 slowdown. We're hearing all the stories from "I'm in a transition", "my company allows us to fly during this slow down", etc., but request we not call for a reference. Some of these pilots are trying to disguise the fact they're actually still employed and two in particular appear to be active PSA employees.
My questions is this - does PSA allow their pilots to moonlight like this and are they allowed to fly elsewhere while they're still employed, sitting on reserve, or under some sort of reduced time?
Thanks to anyone who can clarify.
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Old 04-25-2020, 10:13 AM
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No one at PSA has yet taken a significant involuntary pay cut. There are people on leave of absence. There’s a prior approval policy but the airlines have bigger fish to fry.

There’s no financial reason anyone on reserve will be looking for extra work. They’re making the same they did six months ago
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Old 04-25-2020, 10:19 AM
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No one at PSA has yet taken a significant involuntary pay cut. There are people on leave of absence. There’s a prior approval policy but the airlines have bigger fish to fry. There’s no financial reason anyone on reserve will be looking for extra work. They’re making the same they did six months ago
Thanks for the reply.
I'm not questioning the economics of it, just whether it's permitted by PSA, as I recall there are restrictions in the employment and union contracts regarding non-PSA flying.
So the question is whether it's allowed or not.
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Old 04-25-2020, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DonConsult67 View Post
Thanks for the reply.
I'm not questioning the economics of it, just whether it's permitted by PSA, as I recall there are restrictions in the employment and union contracts regarding non-PSA flying.
So the question is whether it's allowed or not.
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If they’re on leave they can do as they want since there isn’t any conflict with 117 times. Outside of that there is a section of our FOM allowing additional work with the consent of the chief pilots’ office.
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Originally Posted by DonConsult67 View Post
Question for PSA pilots.
We have recently been inundated with applications from pilots we know are with various airlines looking for flying work while they sit out the Covid-19 slowdown. We're hearing all the stories from "I'm in a transition", "my company allows us to fly during this slow down", etc., but request we not call for a reference. Some of these pilots are trying to disguise the fact they're actually still employed and two in particular appear to be active PSA employees.
My questions is this - does PSA allow their pilots to moonlight like this and are they allowed to fly elsewhere while they're still employed, sitting on reserve, or under some sort of reduced time?
Thanks to anyone who can clarify.
Why don’t you call the company and ask them
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While I was the guy doing the hiring and an applicant requested no contact with their current or most recent employer I removed that individual from consideration.
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Old 04-25-2020, 12:46 PM
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While I was the guy doing the hiring and an applicant requested no contact with their current or most recent employer I removed that individual from consideration.
There are legit reasons to request you don't contact current employers. Plenty of sleazeball operators who will craplist you the second someone contacts them and even suggests you are considering outside employment.
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Originally Posted by rdneckpilot View Post
While I was the guy doing the hiring and an applicant requested no contact with their current or most recent employer I removed that individual from consideration.
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Originally Posted by DonConsult67 View Post
Question for PSA pilots.
We have recently been inundated with applications from pilots we know are with various airlines looking for flying work while they sit out the Covid-19 slowdown. We're hearing all the stories from "I'm in a transition", "my company allows us to fly during this slow down", etc., but request we not call for a reference. Some of these pilots are trying to disguise the fact they're actually still employed and two in particular appear to be active PSA employees.
My questions is this - does PSA allow their pilots to moonlight like this and are they allowed to fly elsewhere while they're still employed, sitting on reserve, or under some sort of reduced time?
Thanks to anyone who can clarify.
what type of flying are “we”?
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Originally Posted by rdneckpilot View Post
While I was the guy doing the hiring and an applicant requested no contact with their current or most recent employer I removed that individual from consideration.
This by itself is a terrible way to go about hiring. At a minimum, you should allow them the courtesy of not causing drama where they currently are working until they accept a CJO.
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