PSA Future
07-01-2020, 07:13 PM
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PSA Future
Looks like the union is negotiating with the company on potential concessions to help AAG push through this crisis, but anyone else worried that AAG might be tempted to shut PSA down?
We’re supposedly the most expensive Eagle carrier (SAP, Holiday Pay, Accelerated Pay, etc.). We’re also the smallest among the 3 W/O. Unlike PDT and ENY, we only have planes and pilots.
Just wondering what y’all think.
We’re supposedly the most expensive Eagle carrier (SAP, Holiday Pay, Accelerated Pay, etc.). We’re also the smallest among the 3 W/O. Unlike PDT and ENY, we only have planes and pilots.
Just wondering what y’all think.
07-01-2020, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blackhawk88
Looks like the union is negotiating with the company on potential concessions to help AAG push through this crisis, but anyone else worried that AAG might be tempted to shut PSA down?
We’re supposedly the most expensive Eagle carrier (SAP, Holiday Pay, Accelerated Pay, etc.). We’re also the smallest among the 3 W/O. Unlike PDT and ENY, we only have planes and pilots.
Just wondering what y’all think.
We’re supposedly the most expensive Eagle carrier (SAP, Holiday Pay, Accelerated Pay, etc.). We’re also the smallest among the 3 W/O. Unlike PDT and ENY, we only have planes and pilots.
Just wondering what y’all think.
07-01-2020, 07:37 PM
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Yeah, me too. I was hoping AAG would maintain staffing and the flying at W/O carriers instead of other regionals, but it sounded like they need to maintain a certain level of block hours with them per their respective CPAs.
07-01-2020, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by blackhawk88
Looks like the union is negotiating with the company on potential concessions to help AAG push through this crisis, but anyone else worried that AAG might be tempted to shut PSA down?
We’re supposedly the most expensive Eagle carrier (SAP, Holiday Pay, Accelerated Pay, etc.). We’re also the smallest among the 3 W/O. Unlike PDT and ENY, we only have planes and pilots.
Just wondering what y’all think.
We’re supposedly the most expensive Eagle carrier (SAP, Holiday Pay, Accelerated Pay, etc.). We’re also the smallest among the 3 W/O. Unlike PDT and ENY, we only have planes and pilots.
Just wondering what y’all think.
07-01-2020, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ
for crying out loud, can we do without concessions? There are likely to be furloughs and downgrades, so be it. Can we not do the race to the bottom thing?
07-01-2020, 08:06 PM
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My apologies. I didn’t mean to come off as someone who wanted to take concessions. Obviously I wouldn’t be happy with taking a pay cut (either through reduced hourly rates and/or reduced guarantee) or go without SAP.
Regardless, it’s still worrying knowing that we may not be as sustainable compared to our two sister companies.
Regardless, it’s still worrying knowing that we may not be as sustainable compared to our two sister companies.
07-01-2020, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by blackhawk88
My apologies. I didn’t mean to come off as someone who wanted to take concessions. Obviously I wouldn’t be happy with taking a pay cut (either through reduced hourly rates and/or reduced guarantee) or go without SAP.
Regardless, it’s still worrying knowing that we may not be as sustainable compared to our two sister companies.
Regardless, it’s still worrying knowing that we may not be as sustainable compared to our two sister companies.
07-01-2020, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Freighthotdog
Its hard to say what will happen. I can see some E145s or older CRJ 700s going next to cut costs and to comply with scope.
07-01-2020, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by blackhawk88
My apologies. I didn’t mean to come off as someone who wanted to take concessions. Obviously I wouldn’t be happy with taking a pay cut (either through reduced hourly rates and/or reduced guarantee) or go without SAP.
Regardless, it’s still worrying knowing that we may not be as sustainable compared to our two sister companies.
Regardless, it’s still worrying knowing that we may not be as sustainable compared to our two sister companies.
I'd imagine most if not all of the 3 w/o will end up parking at least some of the airplanes, big and small, downgrading and furloughing. It's going to suck, but the 3 W/O need to stay together in all of this.
sorry if I came across snappy, we will all get through this
07-02-2020, 02:55 AM
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Lot of unknowns here, chief one is the degree to which AA values the control over a WO regional in a post-corona world. Almost as important, do they care about having 3 WO’s?
AA can likely shuffle a lot of outside RJ flying if they wanna save the WO
Regionals is a big game of musical chairs and it seems likely someone is going to lose.
Personally, i think piedmont air ops is at greatest risk. Envoy could take however many 145’s they wanted to keep and the ground ops could soldier on.
The thing I see in favor of envoy and psa is having two class aircraft to feed the fortress hubs
AA can likely shuffle a lot of outside RJ flying if they wanna save the WO
Regionals is a big game of musical chairs and it seems likely someone is going to lose.
Personally, i think piedmont air ops is at greatest risk. Envoy could take however many 145’s they wanted to keep and the ground ops could soldier on.
The thing I see in favor of envoy and psa is having two class aircraft to feed the fortress hubs
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