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#871
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 51
PSA and the whole industry are in a period of massive attrition… ie seniority progression. Living in clt, the answer is PSA without any competition. In the scheme of your time at a regional, the initial commute to reserve will be trivial compared to living in the mother ship your whole careee
One other consideration is flow. I know everyone says "dont count on it" however PDT now flows 9/month starting november and has 750 pilots. If you estimate 35% leave before they flow that's only about 4.5 years to flow which seems achievable.
#872
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
I should clarify that I am about 2.5 hours from CLT and not actually in base. In other words I can make a line work without being a commuter however 2hr callout reserve would be a problem, if I had to do that for 2 years I would have to move or park a camper halfway there or some crap.
One other consideration is flow. I know everyone says "dont count on it" however PDT now flows 9/month starting november and has 750 pilots. If you estimate 35% leave before they flow that's only about 4.5 years to flow which seems achievable.
One other consideration is flow. I know everyone says "dont count on it" however PDT now flows 9/month starting november and has 750 pilots. If you estimate 35% leave before they flow that's only about 4.5 years to flow which seems achievable.
From someone on the line, flying a CRJ, a common sentiment expressed is amazement that anyone would willingly go to Piedmont when PSA is hiring.
PSA isn’t the gold standard in a lot of ways, but flying actual airliners, and the occasional new 900 instead of clapped out, really small 145’s with ****ty schedules doesn’t make any sense to me.
#873
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 2,012
I should clarify that I am about 2.5 hours from CLT and not actually in base. In other words I can make a line work without being a commuter however 2hr callout reserve would be a problem, if I had to do that for 2 years I would have to move or park a camper halfway there or some crap.
One other consideration is flow. I know everyone says "dont count on it" however PDT now flows 9/month starting november and has 750 pilots. If you estimate 35% leave before they flow that's only about 4.5 years to flow which seems achievable.
One other consideration is flow. I know everyone says "dont count on it" however PDT now flows 9/month starting november and has 750 pilots. If you estimate 35% leave before they flow that's only about 4.5 years to flow which seems achievable.
time to flow is fundamentally dependent on outside attrition and should be seen as career insurance not a career plan. If you want a redecorated house you don’t sit around waiting for a fire or flood. Same with flow
all that said, the industry is in a hiring boom and seniority progression should be great at least long enough to get you off short call in clt
#874
Some Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 318
I am CLT based and looking at PSA or Piedmont. For a new FO how long are we looking to get CLT as a base for reserve or a line? Also is the flow still 10 pilots/month?
PSA seems like a much better place to work overall, however it seems like CLT is senior and spending more time having to commute might offset that.
PSA seems like a much better place to work overall, however it seems like CLT is senior and spending more time having to commute might offset that.
Last edited by RJDriver900; 09-23-2021 at 06:36 AM.
#875
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 115
In regards to upgrades. We are already “senior manning” which means as soon as you’re eligible you should be able to upgrade. However, that does mean you’ll be back on reserve and there are likely those senior to you that are bypassing until they can hold a line so it could be a long time on reserve as a captain. I think historically it’s been about 4.5 years on property to hold a line as a captain.
Of course, these numbers can always get shorter or longer depending on what happens above the regionals.
#876
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 2,012
historically times have been all over the place. None of it is relevant now. I understand the need/impulse to get an idea but there’s really not any useful predictions unless you can predict lcc/legacy/cargo hiring for the next two years
#877
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 115
I agree with that but I was thinking we could use PSA’s pre-COVID timeframes as a reference point. I’m thinking it should get close to that and if things ramp-up the way all the LCC’s, Legacies, and Cargo are predicted it should get even more exciting for everybody.
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