PSA Attrition
07-02-2022, 06:22 AM
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PSA Attrition
Despite the two TAs that were signed this year regarding the retention bonuses and now the increased pay, for the folks that have left PSA, where did they land?
Does your MEC provide a breakdown of where pilots are moving on to? Number of pilots who flowed to AA vs. the number of pilots who left for a competitor?
Any data is appreciated.
Does your MEC provide a breakdown of where pilots are moving on to? Number of pilots who flowed to AA vs. the number of pilots who left for a competitor?
Any data is appreciated.
07-02-2022, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BaldEagleSq
Despite the two TAs that were signed this year regarding the retention bonuses and now the increased pay, for the folks that have left PSA, where did they land?
Does your MEC provide a breakdown of where pilots are moving on to? Number of pilots who flowed to AA vs. the number of pilots who left for a competitor?
Any data is appreciated.
Does your MEC provide a breakdown of where pilots are moving on to? Number of pilots who flowed to AA vs. the number of pilots who left for a competitor?
Any data is appreciated.
- Total Pilot New Hires: 30
- Total Pilot Attrition: 90
- PSA Pilots Hired by American (Flow): 10
- PSA Pilots Hired by American (Direct Hire): 23
- Non-AA Attrition: 57
this is the only data we are provided.
I know of 6 FO’s that left in June for Spirit and Frontier.
07-02-2022, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by saltbae
for May
I know of 6 FO’s that left in June for Spirit and Frontier.
- Total Pilot New Hires: 30
- Total Pilot Attrition: 90
- PSA Pilots Hired by American (Flow): 10
- PSA Pilots Hired by American (Direct Hire): 23
- Non-AA Attrition: 57
I know of 6 FO’s that left in June for Spirit and Frontier.
Appreciate the info on the 6 who left for NK and F9 in June.
07-02-2022, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BaldEagleSq
Thanks! It's a shame they don't provide additional details on that "Non-AA Attrition" number. Would be interesting to see where those 57 pilots wound up.
Appreciate the info on the 6 who left for NK and F9 in June.
Appreciate the info on the 6 who left for NK and F9 in June.
07-02-2022, 10:44 AM
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The company has never been very good at reporting specifics like that, despite them most likely receiving PRIA requests from every airline that a former PSA pilot goes to. My guess is data like that would get in the way of the narrative that they want to project, which is everyone goes to AA.
07-02-2022, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow2Final
As far as I know, there’s no need for a pilot separating from PSA to specify where or why to the company, so I imagine that would be pretty dang hard to ascertain.
Originally Posted by TallFlyer
The company has never been very good at reporting specifics like that, despite them most likely receiving PRIA requests from every airline that a former PSA pilot goes to. My guess is data like that would get in the way of the narrative that they want to project, which is everyone goes to AA.
10 + 23 < 57
07-02-2022, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BaldEagleSq
For sure. Even without that level of detail, it'll be interesting to see how attrition numbers posted from May change in the months ahead.
10 + 23 < 57
10 + 23 < 57
Despite the money being thrown around, I still think it’s in the best interest of a pilot to leave. What’s happening here isn’t remotely sustainable. Go get a mainline seniority number and don’t look back.
07-02-2022, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I know a couple Captains that decided to stay and flow even though their flow was over a year away. Others will still leave for legacies. I do think this blunts the sense of urgency to leave for an LCC or JetBlue etc.
Despite the money being thrown around, I still think it’s in the best interest of a pilot to leave. What’s happening here isn’t remotely sustainable. Go get a mainline seniority number and don’t look back.
Despite the money being thrown around, I still think it’s in the best interest of a pilot to leave. What’s happening here isn’t remotely sustainable. Go get a mainline seniority number and don’t look back.
07-02-2022, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by saltbae
The money keeps you here vs going to a LCC or JetBlue but when you experience the incompetence of crew scheduling or incompetent captains causing huge delays and min rest.. you realize it’s not worth sticking around for, especially with the crappy overnights we have
07-02-2022, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by saltbae
The money keeps you here vs going to a LCC or JetBlue but when you experience the incompetence of crew scheduling or incompetent captains causing huge delays and min rest.. you realize it’s not worth sticking around for, especially with the crappy overnights we have
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