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Old 07-18-2023, 08:52 AM
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Question. How does the longevity work at PSA as a DEC. I have previous 121 time. Thanks in advance
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Old 07-18-2023, 09:25 AM
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Question. How does the longevity work at PSA as a DEC. I have previous 121 time. Thanks in advance
They add up your total 121 years of longevity and then you start at that pay level and benefits level. So if you have 5 year 121 you start at year 5 pay and vacation and retirement contributions.
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Question. How does the longevity work at PSA as a DEC. I have previous 121 time. Thanks in advance

Thatís been changing a lot and isnít contractual so nobody outside HR probably has the answers.

My guess would be pay rate and vacation iaw your years
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Longevity is nice, but you should really be asking about Seniority and the fact that every FO on property will be senior to you when they upgrade. If you live in base, thats manageable. if your circumstances force you to commute, well, choose wisely.
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Old 08-09-2023, 05:59 AM
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Longevity is nice, but you should really be asking about Seniority and the fact that every FO on property will be senior to you when they upgrade. If you live in base, thats manageable. if your circumstances force you to commute, well, choose wisely.
I would avoid being a DEC at all costs. Go to Jetblue, Spirit/Frontier, SouthWest, over being a DEC. It takes 4+ years to hold a line, so reserve is awful for junior captains. Only way it's do-able is if you live in base.. but even then it should be a last resort in todays job market. The money is not worth it, you'll make more at a major than as a regional captain.. The pay raises are not guaranteed either, only extended through 2026. LCA's are leaving because they know the days are numbered for their top pay
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Originally Posted by Betty View Post
They add up your total 121 years of longevity and then you start at that pay level and benefits level. So if you have 5 year 121 you start at year 5 pay and vacation and retirement contributions.
Do you know if time on furlough count towards the longevity?
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I would avoid being a DEC at all costs. Go to Jetblue, Spirit/Frontier, SouthWest, over being a DEC. It takes 4+ years to hold a line, so reserve is awful for junior captains. Only way it's do-able is if you live in base.. but even then it should be a last resort in todays job market. The money is not worth it, you'll make more at a major than as a regional captain.. The pay raises are not guaranteed either, only extended through 2026. LCA's are leaving because they know the days are numbered for their top pay

RJ captains are making over $400k at several regionals lately, especially check airmen. I don't think a new hire FO at an LCC is going to do that. Depending upon individual situations a regional may be a far superior choice for many than an LCC or even a legacy. This is especially true for the over 55-58 crowd or returning expats. Folks starting over in that age bracket will probably do better as a street captain at a regional than as an FO for 2-3 years at an LCC. Now, if the job is based at home, that changes the dynamic immensely.

The days of needing to move up and out of a regional aren't exactly over; but for many they are a legitimate career choice these days. Me personally, I've done the globetrotting in a heavy and been all over the world hauling pax. The opportunity to be based at home, not be halfway around the world in 10 different time zones in one trip, and to stay domestic (as in this side of the Rockies) not dealing with controllers that their idea of English proficient is a joke, actually appeals to me. I've considered it. I'm sure many others have as well.

Way back when I first started I was based at home at a regional. The pay sucked compared to today, but in all honesty, I enjoyed the job the most back then. Being able to drive into work, do a nice 6 block hour day trip, and be home with the family for dinner was almost like being a normal person.... it's definately tempting.
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Old 08-15-2023, 11:34 AM
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RJ captains are making over $400k at several regionals lately, especially check airmen. I don't think a new hire FO at an LCC is going to do that. Depending upon individual situations a regional may be a far superior choice for many than an LCC or even a legacy. This is especially true for the over 55-58 crowd or returning expats. Folks starting over in that age bracket will probably do better as a street captain at a regional than as an FO for 2-3 years at an LCC. Now, if the job is based at home, that changes the dynamic immensely.

The days of needing to move up and out of a regional aren't exactly over; but for many they are a legitimate career choice these days. Me personally, I've done the globetrotting in a heavy and been all over the world hauling pax. The opportunity to be based at home, not be halfway around the world in 10 different time zones in one trip, and to stay domestic (as in this side of the Rockies) not dealing with controllers that their idea of English proficient is a joke, actually appeals to me. I've considered it. I'm sure many others have as well.

Way back when I first started I was based at home at a regional. The pay sucked compared to today, but in all honesty, I enjoyed the job the most back then. Being able to drive into work, do a nice 6 block hour day trip, and be home with the family for dinner was almost like being a normal person.... it's definately tempting.
Agree, it depends on each person's circumstances. Some guys may come into a DEC position to make decent money while they are getting some currency, then they can apply to the majors.
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Old 08-15-2023, 06:06 PM
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Agree, it depends on each person's circumstances. Some guys may come into a DEC position to make decent money while they are getting some currency, then they can apply to the majors.
the only people making 400K + are LCAís and thatís the senior ones who get students every trip. You can make 250K + at Southwest year 2 with 15 days off.

You can credit 100 hours at PSA as a captain, I do it now. You get 6-8 days off a month doing that and have 0 life. You wonít make 400K unless youíre a LCA.
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How long would it take a DEC to hold CLT as a base? And how long would it take a DEC to hold a line in CLT?

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