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PinnacleFO 01-20-2010 06:05 AM

I hate that airport with a passion, very interested to see what they aborted for. I dont have any judgement now, and I wont then because i wasn't in their aircraft. There are a couple airports in the northeast where your margin for error is zero in the even that anything goes wrong. This one is one of them. I am very thankful that the stopping system worked.

SilverandSore 01-20-2010 06:21 AM

Does PSA abort above 80KIAS for fire or engine failure only? (Birds would be another one to add to that list.) That is the policy at ASA but we've had our share of captains aborting above 80 for things other than that.... (yes, Anti Skid too!)

mooney 01-20-2010 06:38 AM

aborting for anti skid...now that's funny! Itchy trigger finger!

Wolfie 01-20-2010 06:53 AM

It is a good thing the EMAS functioned as designed. I wonder about the quality of the CR2 braking systen, but that probably wasn't a factor..
It reminds me of a rainy day landing at DCA with Cactus 42, but it was a perfect landing.

USMCFLYR 01-20-2010 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by John Pennekamp (Post 747561)
Holy crap! That is a very BAD airport to have an overrun. For the sake of all of us, I'm glad no one was injured!

As a side note, let's refrain from pointing fingers and second guessing the crew's decision. "There by the grace of God go I".

Stop with the mantra already. Speculation goes both ways. If you are going to pick on Airway's post, then question the ones already posting praise without having any idea WHY/OR HOW they aborted.

PinnacleFO has it right for now. Hold the criticism AND the praise until facts are known if you're the type of poster that hates speculation.

USMCFLYR

USMCFLYR 01-20-2010 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 747613)
aborting for anti skid...now that's funny! Itchy trigger finger!

In my experience in another aircraft - aborting is a tricky subject (and tricky procedure) all the way around. It seemed to be one that many people had different opinions on - no matter how well one thinks it is standardized; ESPECIALLY a high speed abort. I'm glad everything worked out OK in this instance.

USMCFLYR

mooney 01-20-2010 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 747639)
In my experience in another aircraft - aborting is a tricky subject (and tricky procedure) all the way around. It seemed to be one that many people had different opinions on - no matter how well one thinks it is standardized; ESPECIALLY a high speed abort. I'm glad everything worked out OK in this instance.

USMCFLYR


True but loss of anti skid should be cut-and-dry not to abort. Do you abort at v1, 140 knots with 3-4000 feet of runway remaining for an antiskid message, most likely blowing every tire and losing directional control, or takeoff and land somewhere with a 9000 ft runway where it won't even be a factor? I think it's clear.

3XLoser 01-20-2010 07:33 AM

I don't know anything about this airplane, other than that it has a cramped cabin, and that I don't like to be aft of row 8 since there's no tail exit. Is any part of the warning system inhibited above 80 knots? Just curious; no judgements.

Furloughee 01-20-2010 07:35 AM

Above 80kts we abort for fire, engine failure, loss of directional control and master warning.

moonkey 01-20-2010 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 747490)
psa use reduced power takeoffs at crw, or any airport?


You'd better believe it, every time... They also assure the pilots that those engines have never failed on a reduced power take off.


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