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amcwilli 04-22-2012 09:15 AM

PDT/ EAGLE/ PSA's role at the new AA
 
As we all know, we are probably in the very early stages of what will become a US/ AA combo. What role do you think each may play at the future American Airlines?

careerpilot 04-22-2012 09:41 AM

Just because US Air wants to merge with American doesn't mean it will happen. US Air wanted to merge with United in 2008 and 2010. They also wanted to merge with Delta. US Air needs to complete their merger with America West before they even consider another dance partner.

theHub 04-22-2012 09:46 AM


Just because US Air wants to merge with American doesn't mean it will happen. US Air wanted to merge with United in 2008 and 2010. They also wanted to merge with Delta. US Air needs to complete their merger with America West before they even consider another dance partner.
I think we found somebody who is against the merger. They are just asking a valid question. Relax.

RgrMurdock 04-22-2012 09:50 AM

Us air doesn't need to complete anything from a business perspective in this merger

eaglefly 04-22-2012 10:20 AM

The combined entity probably has too much feeder capacity. I'd expect streamlining and reduction. Some carriers may disappear altogether, others may merge. Eagle may not make the cut at all and be partially liquidated.

Does U want (or need) the debt of the 200 Eagle EMB 37-50 seaters ?

It will take time and be a transitionary thing, but I'd expect a smaller AA/U feeder system comprised mostly of 65-81 seat jets (and some turboprops).

Whipsawing will be the entree on the menu, of course.

buddies8 04-22-2012 10:32 AM

thats 63-88 seats.

Wingtips 04-22-2012 10:35 AM

this thing will take 3 years before it is even started on the fleet side. I think by then RJ feed will be something hard to maintain. I see little change coming, first thing you will see though is the AA guys giving up scope on 70 seat jets, and 100 of them going to Eagle. I would be very scared if I were in the bottom 1000 at AA.

theHub 04-22-2012 10:44 AM

Hopefully they just merge EAGLE/PDT/PSA via DOH and drop RAH/AWAC/MESA. Let us fly a fleet of 170/190 or CRJ 700/900/1000 and flow to mainline as our number comes up. Doubtful though.

buddies8 04-22-2012 10:52 AM

disclaimer biased-but that would be financial viable. the only reason that a mainline may farm out the feed to a multitude of regionals is to keep those regionals in business for future contract negotiation ploy's. The cost to mainline is more to farm out the feed (yes that is my opinion, no one has shown numbers to disprove) and control the quality and maintenance. They ae just passing liability but when it get to court the mainline has to cough up the money anyhow so no financial gain just a paid upfront whipsaw program.

fullflank 04-22-2012 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by theHub (Post 1173890)
Hopefully they just merge EAGLE/PDT/PSA via DOH and drop RAH/AWAC/MESA. Let us fly a fleet of 170/190 or CRJ 700/900/1000 and flow to mainline as our number comes up. Doubtful though.

Actually I would guess that long term the contract carriers will see growth from this. It should not be a surprise to anyone that AA will park AE erjs. US will start parking 50 seaters at psa as those leases run out ( I believe those start in 2015). PDT, well those dashes are nearing the end life as it is. With scope relaxation on the way compliments of AA bankruptcy, carriers like awac, rah, skywest will sign new flying the with the new airline with bigger rjs. Just the way I see this playing out.


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