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Cbusbased 11-14-2012 09:25 AM

Haha. I skipped their CFI program, got my MEL instead and had a job right when I graduated.

USMCFLYR 11-14-2012 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace (Post 1292655)
Read the article. It says participants must work a minimum of 2 semesters as a flight instructor for the university. I'm sure it would take a little more than 2 to get the required hours.

I did read the article....and it didn't answer my question ;)
With the downturn of enrollment in aviation programs, and the reported drop in students getting ratings across the board, exactly how will OSU and PSA help get all of those prospective graduates the numbers of hours required to meet the new minimums of the ATP rule?
I agree with you - I'll bet that it will take more htan 2 semesters of instructing to get the mins (not only total time, but all of the other types of time required too).

USMCFLYR

rickair7777 11-14-2012 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1292766)
Too bad you can't just write a check for the ATP. That would make things easy.


You can...but it would be a rather large check.

Probably cheaper to just buy a piper cub and fly the wings off it for 7 or 8 months.

deadstick35 11-14-2012 11:43 AM

5th year seniors doing the CFI requirement
6th year seniors oing CFI, indoc, and SIM
Graduation! and "Guaranteed" job
OSU and PSA split the tuition. ;)
Win-Win-Lose

Seriously, though, don't they only need 1000TT and not 1500?

DL31082 11-14-2012 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by MunkyButtr (Post 1292770)
Pinnacle had a bridge with western michigan, no interview, straight class date.

This program ended when the WMU guys didn't have the required time to fly the Saab.

yimke 11-14-2012 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by deadstick35 (Post 1292923)
5th year seniors doing the CFI requirement
6th year seniors oing CFI, indoc, and SIM
Graduation! and "Guaranteed" job
OSU and PSA split the tuition. ;)
Win-Win-Lose

Seriously, though, don't they only need 1000TT and not 1500?

Not until the NPRM is published with final rulings. It is slated for May 2013. However, you know that date will pass with how fast the FAA gets things done.

fullflank 11-14-2012 12:30 PM

One thousand hours are not easy to get as a CFI in Ohio. In the winter, the weather sucks and alot of training (commercial) requires high ceilings for things like chandles etc. Not to mention icing, so there goes your 2 O'clock instrument lesson. This agreement will not by any means meet the staffing requirement for PSA in the years to come, but it's something that might help them, and also OSU get tuition cash.

Cbusbased 11-14-2012 12:37 PM

I still talk to some of the instructors there. Its going to take them YEARS to get the time needed :(. OSU is a great university but not for flying.

BackintheLPA 11-14-2012 01:22 PM

Path to Poverty
 
This appears to be just another carrot on the stick...

Step One, go 40-50 thousand in debt (conservative average)
Step Two, slave away on poverty wages as a CFI for 2-3 years( not enough students)
Step Three, Hired at poverty wages with no QOL into the right seat for 4-5 years.

Now you are in your late 20s or early 30s trying to dig yourself out of a hole.

All this great decision making, just in time for the repeal of age 65 due to "age discrimination". Canada has set the precedent with the no age limit for domestic operations. It's only a matter time before it happens here. That will be a significant part of the solution for the "pilot shortage". The other major solution will be management gaining greater efficency through consolidation and employee productivity.

DryMotorBoatin 11-14-2012 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by BackintheLPA (Post 1292982)
This appears to be just another carrot on the stick...

Step One, go 40-50 thousand in debt (conservative average)
Step Two, slave away on poverty wages as a CFI for 2-3 years( not enough students)
Step Three, Hired at poverty wages with no QOL into the right seat for 4-5 years.

Now you are in your late 20s or early 30s trying to dig yourself out of a hole.

All this great decision making, just in time for the repeal of age 65 due to "age discrimination". Canada has set the precedent with the no age limit for domestic operations. It's only a matter time before it happens here. That will be a significant part of the solution for the "pilot shortage". The other major solution will be management gaining greater efficency through consolidation and employee productivity.

No age limit as long as you can pass a first class is right around the corner.


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