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Arvik 10-04-2015 04:19 AM
Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 1984996)
No need to apologize. I appreciate hearing it. I'm still tossing around a couple regionals to apply to, and the only real draw for me to consider PSA is that I would be living in CLT.

Just trying to learn what I can to determine if living in CLT for PSA would be better than commuting to another company with better pay/conditions.
If you live in CLT, PSA should merit serious consideration unless you have a pressing desire to commute. Not even the best contract can get you the benefits of living in base.

Leonardo 10-04-2015 05:30 AM
Originally Posted by Belizepilot (Post 1984989)
I bring home $365 dollars a week after taxes and I'm claiming 1. I can't afford the health insurance, yet somehow I have to pay that tax next year because I don't have it, ( just think about that for a minute)
My crash pad is the likes of a trailer park. Im on reserve so I'm hardly flying or getting per diem so this makes that insulting $365 a week almost near impossible to live on.

You can't BS these young kids anymore these days, nobody wants to do this job. I think most airline guys forget the struggles of year one, the dollar doesn't go as far today as it did back then. So its even more difficult to make it through.

I apologize for the rant, hopefully I answered your question.
With good financial planning, sufficient savings, and personal budgeting, year one is easily survivable.

Check out Dave Ramsey Homepage - daveramsey.com. Excellent personal finance resource.

penaltybox 10-04-2015 05:49 AM
Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 1984996)
No need to apologize. I appreciate hearing it. I'm still tossing around a couple regionals to apply to, and the only real draw for me to consider PSA is that I would be living in CLT.

Just trying to learn what I can to determine if living in CLT for PSA would be better than commuting to another company with better pay/conditions.
Commuting sucks. It's not worth it to go fly for one of the other regionals. Living in base will be the best thing you can do for your quality of life.

FlyyGuyy 10-04-2015 07:41 AM
Originally Posted by penaltybox (Post 1985088)
Commuting sucks. It's not worth it to go fly for one of the other regionals. Living in base will be the best thing you can do for your quality of life.
I made it through first year commuting but it wasn't easy (It was awful). Moving to CLT was the best move I ever made. Love it here. Either way, first year pay sucks, but it wasn't any worse than flight instructing, but it was a kick in the nuts from my 135 job before here...so there is that. Nonetheless, you can make it work. Plenty of guys do. If there had been a regional with a base where I lived I may have considered it.

sublime259 10-04-2015 07:47 AM
Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1985023)
First year Eagle pay is what? A dollar more than PSA?

So instead of $365/week an Eagle year one guy is making $383 assuming guarantee.

They must be wiping their asses with hundos over at Eagle with all that extra cash flow.

Go troll elsewhere, you come off a fool.
I think long term, and the long term (5-10 years) at PSA looks god awful. Let's say, hypothetically, you are a 1500 hr. new-hire and decide to go to PSA. You aren't even remotely competitive for one of the 2 legacy (Delta and United) jobs for 5 years. Who is to say they're going to hire you? I'd rather go to a place with a flow, then have a life long career at PSA. Or even a stint at PSA then move over to a LCC. But that's just me. Different strokes for different fokes.

FirstClass 10-04-2015 07:50 AM
Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1984991)
Wow I know I talk sheet about you guys a lot but things really are a lot worse over there then I thought. Oh well, you made your bed now sleep in it.
In what way? We have so many Envoy pilots who left your so called company to come over here to greener pastures.

sublime259 10-04-2015 08:19 AM
Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1985137)
In what way? We have so many Envoy pilots who left your so called company to come over here to greener pastures.
Haha I bet you do. You do nothing but tell lies on here so I wouldn't believe a word you say. I can't believe I'm actually wasting my time responding to you, but yes a few jumped ship to PSA in the past but not anymore.

Slick111 10-04-2015 08:22 AM
Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1985137)
In what way? We have so many Envoy pilots who left your so called company to come over here to greener pastures.
Which brings us to an interesting question: There have been MANY Envoy pilots who have moved over to PSA in the last 2 years. How many PSA pilots have moved (or even tried to move) to envoy, (where they have that awesome flow-thu!) in that same period.

I think we all know the answer to that question. I guess most pilots just aren't as smart as subslime259.

FlexNinja 10-04-2015 09:00 AM
Someone mentioned that reserve was changing/going away. Any updates on that? Also, whats the speculation on CVG senority? Will it be senior or start off fairly junior?

penaltybox 10-04-2015 09:20 AM
Originally Posted by FlexNinja (Post 1985172)
Someone mentioned that reserve was changing/going away. Any updates on that? Also, whats the speculation on CVG senority? Will it be senior or start off fairly junior?
That's news to me. Reserve will never go away, not here nor at any other airline. Id imagine CVG will go junior for FOs.


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