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Old 05-24-2017, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by adebord View Post
The $16-$22 first year pay still exists. Its the 1,250 hours you CFI at a flight school.

6 of one, half a dozen of another.
Not really, $16-22 @ 40 hours a week vs 75 hours a month.
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Old 05-24-2017, 10:56 PM
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At an airline you're paid 75 hours a month on reserve, but I'll entertain the idea that some how your doing 100 hours. That's still less than the 160 hours of pay at a flight school doing ground, sim and flights. But if you're ambitious you could do 200 hours at a flight school. Add an extra activity each day.
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At an airline you're paid 75 hours a month on reserve, but I'll entertain the idea that some how your doing 100 hours. That's still less than the 160 hours of pay at a flight school doing ground, sim and flights. But if you're ambitious you could do 200 hours at a flight school. Add an extra activity each day.
Are you serious

If you think flight instructors are getting paid for 160-200 hours a month you are severely out of touch. A good month would be half of that.
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Are you serious

If you think flight instructors are getting paid for 160-200 hours a month you are severely out of touch. A good month would be half of that.
Not out of touch. And yes I'm dead serious, at a college flight program like ERAU people do get paid that much.

Maybe someone with experience at ATP or Aerosim (Delta Connection Academy) can chime in on their pay structure.

ERAU example:
Let's say a full time CFI has 8 students​, that's 4 activities a day at an average 2 hours per activity that's 8 hours of pay per day without picking up additional work. Students are MWF, TTHS.

Full time CFIs have the option to work Saturday or take the day off. If a CFI chooses to take Saturday off they are working 40 hours a week. There's 4 weeks in a month.
40*4=160.

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Old 05-25-2017, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by adebord View Post
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If you think flight instructors are getting paid for 160-200 hours a month you are severely out of touch. A good month would be half of that.
Where are you instructing or referring to that amount of hours is a pipe dream? On a slow week at the schools, 30 hours was bad. Having your II and MEI helps though and a lot of those places are willing to pay for it with a time commitment.
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Where are you instructing or referring to that amount of hours is a pipe dream? On a slow week at the schools, 30 hours was bad. Having your II and MEI helps though and a lot of those places are willing to pay for it with a time commitment.
A commitment which with the ATP/R-ATP rule doesn't slow you down from getting on a seniority list. So the CFI benefits twice, a MEI paid for by the school (under a contract that's as long as it'll take to get your time, or it might even take you longer than the contract, depending on your total flight time when hired).

Second, everyone else has to get the same flight time, so a guy who can afford to buy multi time does not bypass you. Which used to happen when the ATP requirement was not in effect. The multi engine time required was higher. 100 hours at some places, 50 at others and 25 at the less desirable outfits.
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Old 06-27-2017, 03:47 PM
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"Some industry representatives who had initially been very supportive of the new regulations have since become critical of the new rules, arguing that they have created a pilot shortage. There is no reliable data to support this position. In fact, there is an adequate supply of qualified pilots and a robust pipeline of pilots to meet the needs of commercial aviation. In 2015, the FAA issued 6,430 ATP certificates, and in the first eight months of 2016, the FAA reported that they had issued 6,530 ATP certificates, including 599 R-ATP certificates. Regional airlines that report a shortage of pilots typically offer lower salaries, poor work-life balance, and fewer opportunities for career progression. Qualified pilots have many employment opportunities, and some regional airlines have realized that to attract qualified candidates they have to make competitive offers and invest in their pilots. Safety regulations should not be driven by the economic decisions of airlines."

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