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ppilk 03-01-2017 09:35 AM

Is it hard to get 1 or 2 day trip assigns?
 
Specifically with the regionals. I know the majors are very seniority based but vary from airline to airline. Some guy I know has worked with Spirit for 6 months and is home with his newborn every night. I hear at other companies like Delta it can take decades.

What about with the regionals? Are there any specific companies that are known for early flexibility (mainly curious about Piedmont, Republic, Air Wisconsin @PHL)?

Old buddy just got hired by Piedmont and they seemed very open to giving in to his demands (he basically told them he needed to be based in PHL and they said no problem). Never got a chance to ask him about scheduling flexibility.

Brokeasspot 03-01-2017 09:44 AM

At PDT, you can have any schedule you want, as long as it's 4 day trips with 2 days off and one 3-4 day off block!!! Min days off are 11, and that's prob 80% of the lines. Welcome to the show…

bigtime209 03-01-2017 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by ppilk (Post 2311511)
Specifically with the regionals. I know the majors are very seniority based but vary from airline to airline. Some guy I know has worked with Spirit for 6 months and is home with his newborn every night. I hear at other companies like Delta it can take decades.

What about with the regionals? Are there any specific companies that are known for early flexibility (mainly curious about Piedmont, Republic, Air Wisconsin @PHL)?

Old buddy just got hired by Piedmont and they seemed very open to giving in to his demands (he basically told them he needed to be based in PHL and they said no problem). Never got a chance to ask him about scheduling flexibility.

The short answer to your question is no. Spirit is known for it's top notch quality of life and scheduling ability. That's the place you want to be if you want to be home as much as possible. Regional airlines and flexibility are two things that don't really go hand in hand. Envoy has a very small amount of 1 and 2 day trips but they obviously go ultra senior. The other airlines I'd be speculating about, but I believe Republic is mostly 4 day trips, if not completely. Piedmont is very short staffed so those guys are working quite a bit, and AWAC is shifting from AA flying to United flying so I'd imagine the PHL base is going away for them. And ALL airlines are very seniority based.

Bob Loblaw 03-01-2017 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Brokeasspot (Post 2311518)
At PDT, you can have any schedule you want, as long as it's 4 day trips with 2 days off and one 3-4 day off block!!! Min days off are 11, and that's prob 80% of the lines. Welcome to the show…

Envoy has the same **** show.

GrassLandings 03-01-2017 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by ppilk (Post 2311511)
Specifically with the regionals. I know the majors are very seniority based but vary from airline to airline. Some guy I know has worked with Spirit for 6 months and is home with his newborn every night. I hear at other companies like Delta it can take decades.

What about with the regionals? Are there any specific companies that are known for early flexibility (mainly curious about Piedmont, Republic, Air Wisconsin @PHL)?

Old buddy just got hired by Piedmont and they seemed very open to giving in to his demands (he basically told them he needed to be based in PHL and they said no problem). Never got a chance to ask him about scheduling flexibility.

Compass has alot of 4 day trips. But 2 and 3 day trips are common as well. Majority of the flying from a single type trip is from 4day trips. I think little less than half our total monthly block is from 4 day tips. Min days is 11 and 12 (30/31 day months). 15 off and 80 hours is average for me, and I bid fairly senior FO but commute in and out the day of. If I didnt, I could probably swing 90+ and 15 off every month. If you dont bid for commutable trips thats actually not that hard to do. Lots of long flight(for a regional), two leg days. Especially out of LAX. LAX-DFW-LAX-SFO is pretty high credit day. We used to have DTW-MTY-DTW which was usually built as a 35hour or so 5 day trip. But mainline flies that now. Average line is 75-80hours and 15 off or so. Give or take a day depending on the number of days in a month and if peak season or not.

Irishblackbird 03-01-2017 01:15 PM

The closest you can get to 1 and 2 day trips with scheduling flexibility might be PSA. The sap enables you to basically construct your own schedule by dropping trips that you don't want and exchanging them for more desirable trips. (desirability is based on your personal preference if that comes in the form of a 1 or 2 day trip). Too many options to list here in how you could build your schedule. Sap is basically first come first served, and not senority based, with the only requirements being that you are a lineholder and the schedule you build dose not run afoul of FAR 117

word302 03-01-2017 01:29 PM

I don't fly overnights at OO except for high credit stand-ups.

zondaracer 03-01-2017 01:32 PM

I'm at SkyWest and it depends by base and also can change from month to month. After only a year, I would get some months that were only one day and two day trips, and then the following month all 4 day trips. I'm at a pretty senior base so your mileage may vary. A friend of mine is in a junior base and gets all 1 day trips consistently.

ppilk 03-01-2017 01:49 PM

Thanks everyone for the feedback

knewyork 03-01-2017 03:31 PM

Depends on the base and company. Republic at EWR for example. It's mostly commuters who are there for seniority while they wait for higher seniority at a closer to home base. They typically bid longer trips so they don't have to commute every 2 days. A few lucky people like me live in base at EWR and are then left with plenty of day trips and 2 day trips.


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