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Makanakis 03-14-2017 09:33 AM

Overcapacity to Cuba
 
Silver Airways Ending Service to Cuba

and Frontier will end its Miami to Havana

aviatorpr 03-14-2017 10:33 AM

......Yawn

badflaps 03-14-2017 10:37 AM

Just another slow Carib Isle, never understood the clamor.

Air Stang 7 03-14-2017 11:38 AM

I like 3rd world toilets.

prex8390 03-14-2017 12:03 PM

Once they build up the "tourist infastructure" i.e Sandals builds some resorts down there the capacity will pick back up. Most people probably don't want to jump though hoops of getting a visa and dealing with that whole process just to stay in a typical Cuban hotel that hasn't seen a renovation since 1968. As soon as this place turns more so into the DR, flights will pick back up. They probably figured there would be more "historical site tourists" when everyone just goes to the islands to drink.

serthwrmtym 03-14-2017 12:12 PM

There is also uncertinty about Trump reversing the travel easements.

sflpilot 03-14-2017 12:24 PM

Although they would not admit it publicly I am wondering if part if this is they just could not get enough pilots to expand their route network as much as they did. They do still have a 1 year training contract that they say is because they are paying for your CTP class. Other regionals just do this with no strings attached. I believe their upgrade is also longer than many of the jet regionals. Additionally florida summers in an aircraft with no APU cannot be fun. Former pilots have told me they bring a sweat towel with them. That said overcapacity is still the main issue.

jcountry 03-14-2017 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2320454)
Just another slow Carib Isle, never understood the clamor.


There's been a pretty big clamor to leave that place-ever since the commies took over.

msprj2 03-14-2017 01:14 PM

Maybe they don't want us there with nor do they want a subway at every corner?

Xtreme87 03-14-2017 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2320501)
Once they build up the "tourist infastructure" i.e Sandals builds some resorts down there the capacity will pick back up. Most people probably don't want to jump though hoops of getting a visa and dealing with that whole process just to stay in a typical Cuban hotel that hasn't seen a renovation since 1968. As soon as this place turns more so into the DR, flights will pick back up. They probably figured there would be more "historical site tourists" when everyone just goes to the islands to drink.

You realize that the whole world goes to vacation down there? They have plenty of resorts just like any other island in the caribbean.

Tpinks 03-14-2017 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Xtreme87 (Post 2320550)
You realize that the whole world goes to vacation down there? They have plenty of resorts just like any other island in the caribbean.

But those resorts are mostly tied to European/Canadian travel agencies from what I have read elsewhere.

What I'm curious about though is what will Silver do now. I was under the impression that they were really betting the house on Cuba which is why they left all of the EAS flying up north.

KCaviator 03-14-2017 05:17 PM

American is downguaging Camaguey and Cienfuegos to Republic 175s starting next month.

cf105 03-14-2017 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2320501)
Once they build up the "tourist infastructure" i.e Sandals builds some resorts down there the capacity will pick back up. Most people probably don't want to jump though hoops of getting a visa and dealing with that whole process just to stay in a typical Cuban hotel that hasn't seen a renovation since 1968.

There's absolutely zero hoops to jump through. Show up at MCO, go to the JetBlue counter, they send you to another counter where you pay your $50 visa and go get your boarding pass.

One day you will fly over Varadero and will understand Western European havent been waiting to flock in there.

cf105 03-14-2017 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2320680)
American is downguaging Camaguey and Cienfuegos to Republic 175s starting next month.

Peeps with non-rev priority on those 175s are going to enjoy visiting Cienfuegos, gorgeous historical town.

BizJet 03-15-2017 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 2320540)
Maybe they don't want us there with nor do they want a subway at every corner?

Ain't that the truth. I rather them still keep the business side embargo just to keep American companies out.

I've seen rapid tourist growth in the Dutch Antilles and it frankly sucks. The islands are getting overcrowded and more Americanized. Hopefully my favorite island is the last to get touched.


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