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Old 03-28-2017, 03:38 AM
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Are they still doing ground school in Dayton?
Pay during training?
Is the hotel extended stay at least during ground school?
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:00 AM
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Ground is in Dayton. Full guarantee plus per diem while in training and I believe they are staying at the Crown Plaza now.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:55 AM
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Hi.
40 y.o., US citizen working in South America for a 121 type regional. Moving back to the US in the next few weeks. Interested in AAG WOs due to benefits and flow to AA. Moving to whichever base I get, not interested in commuting.
Looking on the PSA website flow time is estimated to be 6 - 7 years, while Piedmont website talks about ~5 years. QOL is a big factor for me. Also, at 40, being able to flow to AA in a few years would be really nice (the sooner the better).
Is it true that PDT offers a faster flow? If so, why would it take longer at PSA?
As far as I can tell pay and bonuses are fairly similar.
Any thoughts, recomendations or things to consider between the two?
Any advice is highly appreciated.
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Papa View Post
Hi.
40 y.o., US citizen working in South America for a 121 type regional. Moving back to the US in the next few weeks. Interested in AAG WOs due to benefits and flow to AA. Moving to whichever base I get, not interested in commuting.
Looking on the PSA website flow time is estimated to be 6 - 7 years, while Piedmont website talks about ~5 years. QOL is a big factor for me. Also, at 40, being able to flow to AA in a few years would be really nice (the sooner the better).
Is it true that PDT offers a faster flow? If so, why would it take longer at PSA?
As far as I can tell pay and bonuses are fairly similar.
Any thoughts, recomendations or things to consider between the two?
Any advice is highly appreciated.
Thanks.
Going to any airline purely for a flow is foolish. It's nice to have in your back pocket but chances are you can get hired at a different major long before you flow. PSA's is longer because we have more pilots and are only sending 5/month. I'm not saying PSA (or any other AAG WO) is bad but flow should be like the 5th reason to pick a regional.
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by penaltybox View Post
Going to any airline purely for a flow is foolish. It's nice to have in your back pocket but chances are you can get hired at a different major long before you flow. PSA's is longer because we have more pilots and are only sending 5/month. I'm not saying PSA (or any other AAG WO) is bad but flow should be like the 5th reason to pick a regional.
Right. The way I look at flow is as a back up plan, a very good one. But we all know in this business we have to be open minded and consider all options. So I get your point. Thanks for the input.

How is working at PSA in general?
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:51 AM
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If you are looking at AA, go ahead and apply to all three of them (EN, PDT, PSA). If/when you get an offer from one or all, make your decision.
If you want to upgrade fast and you have U.S. FAR 121 time then I believe PDT will get you there quicker.

Even if you have the flow in your back pocket, you should apply to the majors while there if its your long term goal. If you don't have a degree then your options outside the flow may be limited for some airlines.
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptYoda View Post
If you are looking at AA, go ahead and apply to all three of them (EN, PDT, PSA). If/when you get an offer from one or all, make your decision.
If you want to upgrade fast and you have U.S. FAR 121 time then I believe PDT will get you there quicker.

Even if you have the flow in your back pocket, you should apply to the majors while there if its your long term goal. If you don't have a degree then your options outside the flow may be limited for some airlines.
No college degree here, hence the importance of the flow option in my case. PSA and PDT my top two choices at the moment.
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:59 AM
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I should also add that while there are excellent companies like Southwest and Jetblue that don't require a degree, I might pursue a degree part time while working at a regional
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Old 03-28-2017, 07:06 AM
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In your case, AA (with flow) would be the best option. Are you former FAR 121 (US)? I think PSA and PDT are both good options but PDT will get you to the left seat quicker. The flow-- whatever they tell you can change from 5 years to......

In your case at 40, even if it took you 7 years (lets pick PDT) then you have 1 year as an F/O and 6 as a Captain. If/when you flow you will be 47 with 18 years at AA to go.

Since you want to move to base, then with PDT on the ERJ it's PHL.
PSA has a few other ones to choose and apparently has a good SAP option which everyone seems to really like. SAP is the ability to adjust your schedule for better QOL.

Generally all the AAG wholly owned regionals have pretty much the same compensation package (give or take).
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Old 03-28-2017, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ecamactions View Post
Ground is in Dayton. Full guarantee plus per diem while in training and I believe they are staying at the Crown Plaza now.
I think the 2/13 class was the only one to get the Crown. I do know the class behind us were at the Best Western.
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