Study what?? Been gone 10 years....
06-26-2017, 01:41 PM
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Study what?? Been gone 10 years....
A buddy of mine hasn't flown since Independence Air died (he was a CRJ driver for them).
He just got hired by a big regional without them even blinking an eye about him not having flown in 11+ years. That segment of the industry has changed I guess!!
He has about 30 days before class starts and has the standard stuff an airline sends you, i.e. limitations and memory items.
Any other suggestions as to practical stuff he could study? I know sim/plane time with a CFII would help a lot, he knows it too and he'll decide what his budget can handle in that respect. But practical book stuff, I dont know what else other than the FAR/AIM and basic instrument stuff to study?
Any suggestions?
He just got hired by a big regional without them even blinking an eye about him not having flown in 11+ years. That segment of the industry has changed I guess!!
He has about 30 days before class starts and has the standard stuff an airline sends you, i.e. limitations and memory items.
Any other suggestions as to practical stuff he could study? I know sim/plane time with a CFII would help a lot, he knows it too and he'll decide what his budget can handle in that respect. But practical book stuff, I dont know what else other than the FAR/AIM and basic instrument stuff to study?
Any suggestions?
06-27-2017, 02:43 PM
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I am in a similar boat to your friend. 8 years out of the cockpit and looking to head to a regional next spring. Here is what I am using.
These are not original thoughts, there are ways that military pilots in a similar situation to myself to be successful. YMMV
Everything Explained for the Professional Pilot - Richie Lengle (There is an iPad version also, that is very good and just updated)
Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge or another book on Aero.
Instrument Approach Procedures Handbook
I would also suggest studying some Jeppesen Approach Plate tutorials online, or hiring a local instructor to give him a hour or two "ground school" on current Jep plates and how to brief them. I also purchased Ready Set Takeoff Preview, but that is more in hopes of getting on with a major soon after getting current. (I know, I know. You never know how long that might take....) Good luck.
These are not original thoughts, there are ways that military pilots in a similar situation to myself to be successful. YMMV
Everything Explained for the Professional Pilot - Richie Lengle (There is an iPad version also, that is very good and just updated)
Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge or another book on Aero.
Instrument Approach Procedures Handbook
I would also suggest studying some Jeppesen Approach Plate tutorials online, or hiring a local instructor to give him a hour or two "ground school" on current Jep plates and how to brief them. I also purchased Ready Set Takeoff Preview, but that is more in hopes of getting on with a major soon after getting current. (I know, I know. You never know how long that might take....) Good luck.
06-28-2017, 06:37 AM
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I would think he would be well serves to get some time in some kind of sim. You can find all sorts of non-motion setups around these days.
Just because he was hired doesn't mean he can't get fired. 10 years is a long time. We tend to take what we do for granted because we do it a lot, but it is a skill set that degrades quickly.
The regionals are hard up right now, and they will work with him, but I would think a few hours in a sim would make him look real good in training. You are best off not having a bunch of "work with him" problems. It ain't primary training.
Just because he was hired doesn't mean he can't get fired. 10 years is a long time. We tend to take what we do for granted because we do it a lot, but it is a skill set that degrades quickly.
The regionals are hard up right now, and they will work with him, but I would think a few hours in a sim would make him look real good in training. You are best off not having a bunch of "work with him" problems. It ain't primary training.
08-07-2017, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by skypine27
A buddy of mine hasn't flown since Independence Air died (he was a CRJ driver for them).
He just got hired by a big regional without them even blinking an eye about him not having flown in 11+ years. That segment of the industry has changed I guess!!
He has about 30 days before class starts and has the standard stuff an airline sends you, i.e. limitations and memory items.
Any other suggestions as to practical stuff he could study? I know sim/plane time with a CFII would help a lot, he knows it too and he'll decide what his budget can handle in that respect. But practical book stuff, I dont know what else other than the FAR/AIM and basic instrument stuff to study?
Any suggestions?
He just got hired by a big regional without them even blinking an eye about him not having flown in 11+ years. That segment of the industry has changed I guess!!
He has about 30 days before class starts and has the standard stuff an airline sends you, i.e. limitations and memory items.
Any other suggestions as to practical stuff he could study? I know sim/plane time with a CFII would help a lot, he knows it too and he'll decide what his budget can handle in that respect. But practical book stuff, I dont know what else other than the FAR/AIM and basic instrument stuff to study?
Any suggestions?
08-07-2017, 05:46 PM
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"Everything Explained for the Professional Pilot" by Richie Lengel. EVERYTHING Explained for the Professional Pilot - The #1 BEST SELLING aviation reference book plus the above and Jepps.
08-07-2017, 05:55 PM
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Study what?? Been gone 10 years....
Originally Posted by NYC Pilot
Which regional picked up your friend who hasn't flown in 11 years? I am in a similar boat, haven't flown for many years and looking to get back in. I would like to apply to that regional. Thanks!
Also, learn " climb via SID's", and " Descend via SIDS", as well as a planning descents . ( "Hard" altitudes, "soft" altitudes, etc.)
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...nd_Via_FAQ.pdf
I would study the ones at Hubs such as:
HYPER 7 KIAD
PHLBO 3 KEWR or whichever hubs you will be based.
Also, being left high seems to be common on visuals, and having to adapt, and get down fast using flight idle , gear flaps, and speed brakes . ( also be ready to use speed brakes on last minute altitude constraints.)
Study Ramp, and Taxi diagrams at hubs, and listen to Live ATC ground at places like KORD ,and try to copy the taxi clearances, and have good short hand. It can be super fast. IOE can be a blur.
I talked to another pilot that had not flown for 7 years, and he said KORD was hard to keep up with on taxi clearances, etc.
08-07-2017, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Paladin145
I would study the Jepp legend, and Jepp Plates, Low enroute , jet charts.
Also, learn " climb via SID's", and " Descend via SIDS", as well as a planning descents . ( "Hard" altitudes, "soft" altitudes, etc.)
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...nd_Via_FAQ.pdf
I would study the ones at Hubs such as:
HYPER 7 KIAD
PHLBO 3 KEWR or whichever hubs you will be based.
Also, being left high seems to be common on visuals, and having to adapt, and get down fast using flight idle , gear flaps, and speed brakes . ( also be ready to use speed brakes on last minute altitude constraints.)
Study Ramp, and Taxi diagrams at hubs, and listen to Live ATC ground at places like KORD ,and try to copy the taxi clearances, and have good short hand. It can be super fast. IOE can be a blur.
I talked to another pilot that had not flown for 7 years, and he said KORD was hard to keep up with on taxi clearances, etc.
Also, learn " climb via SID's", and " Descend via SIDS", as well as a planning descents . ( "Hard" altitudes, "soft" altitudes, etc.)
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...nd_Via_FAQ.pdf
I would study the ones at Hubs such as:
HYPER 7 KIAD
PHLBO 3 KEWR or whichever hubs you will be based.
Also, being left high seems to be common on visuals, and having to adapt, and get down fast using flight idle , gear flaps, and speed brakes . ( also be ready to use speed brakes on last minute altitude constraints.)
Study Ramp, and Taxi diagrams at hubs, and listen to Live ATC ground at places like KORD ,and try to copy the taxi clearances, and have good short hand. It can be super fast. IOE can be a blur.
I talked to another pilot that had not flown for 7 years, and he said KORD was hard to keep up with on taxi clearances, etc.
08-08-2017, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NYC Pilot
Thanks for the info but I was asking the OP the name of the regional who hired his friend having not flown for 11 years...
The guy I know who has not touched the controls for 7 plus years is at TSA. They were very helpful in training, and understood that he may need more sim sessions. Also, they gave plenty of time on IOE.
08-08-2017, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Paladin145
I would study the Jepp legend, and Jepp Plates, Low enroute , jet charts.
Also, learn " climb via SID's", and " Descend via SIDS", as well as a planning descents . ( "Hard" altitudes, "soft" altitudes, etc.)
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...nd_Via_FAQ.pdf
I talked to another pilot that had not flown for 7 years, and he said KORD was hard to keep up with on taxi clearances, etc.
Also, learn " climb via SID's", and " Descend via SIDS", as well as a planning descents . ( "Hard" altitudes, "soft" altitudes, etc.)
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...nd_Via_FAQ.pdf
I talked to another pilot that had not flown for 7 years, and he said KORD was hard to keep up with on taxi clearances, etc.
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