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Old 08-12-2017, 09:44 AM   #1  
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Why do Asian airlines pay their pilots so much more than american regional/major airlines? If there is so much demand in both markets, why do North American airlines pay a disrespectful amount of money to their pilot's? I have seen an advertisement by many Chinese regional airlines that pay their FO's & Captains above 200k a year. Why cant American regional airline pay their pilots even a quarter of that a year!?!?
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Supply and demand. It's improving domestically, but the US still has lots of pilots relative to China, and very few of them are interested in putting up with the hassle of moving to and working in China.
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#1 Supply and demand.

#2. Working conditions, work rules in Asia.. more than likely suck compared to the U.S. You have to pay more for people to put up with and stick around for stuff like that.

#3 Pilots here are willing to work for less in order to gain experience for the better jobs. -- And this is probably the main reason.

It's pretty easy for regional pilots to make 50K a year. 100k for a captain is easy also. Stick around for a while and the pay goes to 120-150K.
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Why do Asian airlines pay their pilots so much more than american regional/major airlines? If there is so much demand in both markets, why do North American airlines pay a disrespectful amount of money to their pilot's? I have seen an advertisement by many Chinese regional airlines that pay their FO's & Captains above 200k a year. Why cant American regional airline pay their pilots even a quarter of that a year!?!?
Supply and demand. You have to pay that much to get a Westerner to live in China.

As Johnny O' famously stated. "As long as I have a stack of resumes on my desk, my pay is too high." It's good business to pay your employees as little as you can get away with.
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#1 Supply and demand.

#2. Working conditions, work rules in Asia.. more than likely suck compared to the U.S. You have to pay more for people to put up with and stick around for stuff like that.

#3 Pilots here are willing to work for less in order to gain experience for the better jobs. -- And this is probably the main reason.

It's pretty easy for regional pilots to make 50K a year. 100k for a captain is easy also. Stick around for a while and the pay goes to 120-150K.
This. People are willing to hang out at the regionals (and eventually move on) rather than relocate to another culture, leaving friends and family behind.

Also work rules and job protections are non-existent overseas (except western europe & australia, but good luck getting a job there).

Also, some expat pilots have had trouble getting hired by US majors for whatever reason. I know several EK types who had to quit and come back to a US regional before they got called by US legacies...and these are naval aviators. UPS/FDX used to require US residency due to USPS contract requirements, maybe they still do?
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Even if you got lucky in Europe, salaries here in USA are way higher


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Yes top-end legacy salaries are going to be much higher in the US than anywhere else.
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And for some reason the rest of the bennies/quality of life are getting worse and worse over there. Thanks Ryanair


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#1 Supply and demand.

#2. Working conditions, work rules in Asia.. more than likely suck compared to the U.S. You have to pay more for people to put up with and stick around for stuff like that.

#3 Pilots here are willing to work for less in order to gain experience for the better jobs. -- And this is probably the main reason.

It's pretty easy for regional pilots to make 50K a year. 100k for a captain is easy also. Stick around for a while and the pay goes to 120-150K.
I know there is no place like home, and that there will always be pilots that will fly for cheap but that doesn't mean that every single regional airline pilot job is saturated. Their is still an enormous shortage of willing pilots to take a job that make 36k GROSS a year. so why not bump up the NET starting salary to increase the demand of filled pilot seats?
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Supply and demand. You have to pay that much to get a Westerner to live in China.

As Johnny O' famously stated. "As long as I have a stack of resumes on my desk, my pay is too high." It's good business to pay your employees as little as you can get away with.
I know that you're point plays an important role in deciding the salary of a pilot, but its not good business for regionals to have no one flying their aircraft either. this can be fixed with a decent salary. Im not saying that they have to pay us a minimum of 100k a year, just make it an even 60k atleast. Our training is sometimes that much and more...
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