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Old 09-15-2017, 12:03 AM
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As some of you might know the regionals are taking a few Australians via an E3 visa (which is only open to Austs - present from George W for turning up to all of the Wars etc)

As it is quite a good market in Aust now for pilots at both Major & regional level , only small numbers will cross the Pacific

Staff travel benefits would be a carrot for Australians , generally which have the best you think ?

Just some initial research

Envoy owned by AA seems good benefits with AA
PSA , also owned by AA , similar benefits to above

Endeavour Air - owned by Delta , do you get staff travel with Delta

Piedmont also owned by AA - same question

Republic says benefits on United/delta/ AA

Endeavour says travel benefits , but which airlines

As you know employee travel can be very complex with different priorities for different employees etc , a lot of detail in it really

Not trying to be lazy but surely this question has been asked before , how do the regionals stack up in terms of employee travel both domestic and international
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Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont all get flight benefits on AA, with the same priority as mainline so that's very good.

Endeavor gets flight benefits on Delta. On mainline Delta, they get a lower priority than mainline employees but higher than other Delta Connection Employees.

Republic gets UA, DL and AA.

SkyWest is also hiring E3 visa holders and depending on base and equipment determines what benefits you get. All pilots get United. All CRJ pilots get Delta and depending on base, E175 pilots get Delta. Depending on base CRJ pilots can also get AA, and e175 pilots can get Alaska. Priority on mainline is same as Republic. On SkyWest operated flights, you get high prioirty. All SkyWest employees get SkyWest operated Alaska flight benefits as well.
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Originally Posted by Trojan65 View Post
As some of you might know the regionals are taking a few Australians via an E3 visa (which is only open to Austs - present from George W for turning up to all of the Wars etc)

As it is quite a good market in Aust now for pilots at both Major & regional level , only small numbers will cross the Pacific

Staff travel benefits would be a carrot for Australians , generally which have the best you think ?

Just some initial research

Envoy owned by AA seems good benefits with AA
PSA , also owned by AA , similar benefits to above

Endeavour Air - owned by Delta , do you get staff travel with Delta

Piedmont also owned by AA - same question

Republic says benefits on United/delta/ AA

Endeavour says travel benefits , but which airlines

As you know employee travel can be very complex with different priorities for different employees etc , a lot of detail in it really

Not trying to be lazy but surely this question has been asked before , how do the regionals stack up in terms of employee travel both domestic and international
Piedmont is hiring E3 visa holders. Travel benefits immediately on AA (AA level employee benefits) and ZED fares available with multiple other airlines after 6 months.
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Pretty much every airline out there gets ZED fares after 6 months. The number of ZED agreements that each company has varies.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:15 PM
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Thanks guys these travel benefits sound very good

Zoon do you know which CRJ base the Skywest pilots have to be in to get AA & which ERJ base to get Delta , or Alaskan

Do ERJ at Skywest get AA ?

It sounds like the best travel are the companies owned by AA , but Skywest & Republic still look very good in this regard

As a rule of thumb could you say that whichever mainline carrier the regional trucks people for then you would get travel benefits with that major ? ( albeit at a lower priority board than direct employees aside from the AA owned regionals)

ie: Mesa: American & United
Air Wisconsin: says pass benefits - AA ?
Trans State: ??
Compass: AA or Delta ? or AA & Delta
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Originally Posted by Trojan65 View Post
Thanks guys these travel benefits sound very good

Zoon do you know which CRJ base the Skywest pilots have to be in to get AA & which ERJ base to get Delta , or Alaskan

Do ERJ at Skywest get AA ?

It sounds like the best travel are the companies owned by AA , but Skywest & Republic still look very good in this regard

As a rule of thumb could you say that whichever mainline carrier the regional trucks people for then you would get travel benefits with that major ? ( albeit at a lower priority board than direct employees aside from the AA owned regionals)

ie: Mesa: American & United
Air Wisconsin: says pass benefits - AA ?
Trans State: ??
Compass: AA or Delta ? or AA & Delta
SkyWest flight benefits:

United: All pilots
Delta: All CRJ pilots. E175 pilots - SEA, SFO, LAX, BOI
American: CRJ pilots - LAX, ORD, PHX
Alaska: E175 - SAN, PDX, SEA. All pilots get SkyWest operated Alaska benefits

Republics: All pilots gets AA, DL, UA
Compass: All pilots get DL, LAX pilots get AA
Air Wisconsin is switching to all UA flying within the next few months
Mesa: It is AA and UA, but I think it is divided by fleet and base. I will ask my friend who works there.
TSA: All get UA, depending on the base you may get AA as well.
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So I asked. At Mesa, everyone gets United, and everyone except E175 pilots get AA.
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The scale of the hiring seems very large

I read somewhere Horizon were looking for 300 people next 12 months . What are some of the other numbers people are looking at ?

Also what regional would be best for an Australian to join , likely to stay 5 years then back to Aust or off to ME/Asia. Will not transition to majors, as on an E3 visa unlikely to get citizenship

People say clearly the regionals can change quick , so the best airline this year , may lose contracts drop down the list next year.

Just doing some thinking out loud here

So wouldn't this make the WO regionals a "safer" bet ie: the AA owned regional Envoy/Piedmont/PSA or Delta owned Endeavour as the mothership is obviously going to protect their own regional . Thus making these four more "stable" ? , am I making sense here ?

Also how much of a benefit is the staff travel with WO AA regionals getting the same priority as mainline. Would think this looks like a very significant benefit for staff

The other priority for Australians will be upgrade time ; get some PIC asap as you are not going to stay in the US forever

Of the list of top ten , perhaps two or at most three to avoid ; the others in terms of pay , equipment (regionals are TP in Aust/NZ) , upgrade times , travel perks - all looks very good
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Originally Posted by Trojan65 View Post
The scale of the hiring seems very large

I read somewhere Horizon were looking for 300 people next 12 months . What are some of the other numbers people are looking at ?

Also what regional would be best for an Australian to join , likely to stay 5 years then back to Aust or off to ME/Asia. Will not transition to majors, as on an E3 visa unlikely to get citizenship

People say clearly the regionals can change quick , so the best airline this year , may lose contracts drop down the list next year.

Just doing some thinking out loud here

So wouldn't this make the WO regionals a "safer" bet ie: the AA owned regional Envoy/Piedmont/PSA or Delta owned Endeavour as the mothership is obviously going to protect their own regional . Thus making these four more "stable" ? , am I making sense here ?

Also how much of a benefit is the staff travel with WO AA regionals getting the same priority as mainline. Would think this looks like a very significant benefit for staff

The other priority for Australians will be upgrade time ; get some PIC asap as you are not going to stay in the US forever

Of the list of top ten , perhaps two or at most three to avoid ; the others in terms of pay , equipment (regionals are TP in Aust/NZ) , upgrade times , travel perks - all looks very good
If you’re looking for staff Travel then AA Wholly Owned is the way to go. We’re all American Airlines Group Employees so get the same non rev priority on AA. Apparently the WOs now get jumpseat priority on All WO metal over mainline pilots as well... saw some mainline pilots complaining about that recently.

If you want 5 year stability I’d say got to the AA Wholly Owned as well. They’re deemed critical to keep AAs domestic route structure profitable so will be the most stable.

I would say Endeavor for the same reasons with Delta but, Deltas history with Commair makes me leery they won’t shut them down sooner if things go south for whatever reason.

All the AA Wholly Owned have upgrade opportunities as soon as you hit 1000hrs SIC time and 2500TT. That’s 12-18 months usually. I read there’s some specific process to get approval for the visa holders but it’s not a show stopper, I’m just not sure if there’s a delay to the timeline omce you’re qualified to upgrade.

Forget listing the bottom 3 of 10...top 5:

Piedmont, PSA, Envoy, Endeavor, Skywest.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:57 AM
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The Endeavor flight benefits are not as good as the AA WO. You won’t have the same priority on mainline as a mainline employee, but your priority will be slightly higher than other Delta Connection carrier employees.
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