Ok to leave one regional for another?
 

I got hired by a regional (we'll call it Company A) earlier this year, and have completed indoc training, but that's about it. I've been waiting for a while to start "actual" training (systems, procedures, etc), and am becoming more aware of further delays coming our way down the line, and they are starting to add up. Its really not all that upsetting to have a "paid vacation," however I think of every month delayed as another month delayed eventually getting to a major, so I'm considering going to a similar regional (Company B) with a much quicker timeline for training.

If I leave Company A for Company B, when Company B eventually sends a PRIA request to Company A, might Company A potentially fire me for considering leaving? Could they mark me as "failed to complete a 121 training program" or "non-rehirable," etc? I feel like there is some risk involved in making the move, and I definitely don't want to damage my future chances at getting hired by a major airline with a bad mark on my record. Nothing against Company A, they've been great, but the delays are beginning to add up to more than expected.

Is there anything else to consider that I might be missing?

Thanks in advance

If your talking about company A.. if they are who your thinking about than yes they will report unable to complete training or did not pass training. You will have to mark this on your applications for any company.

I don't understand why people think getting out on the line is going to get you to where you want to go faster.. go to the place you don't have to commute, have best quality of life, make most money...

Chances are in 2 to three years half of our regionals will cease to exist in their current form.

Enjoy your time off with pay, go travel for free. All regionals are experiencing delays.. company A is experiencing delays because of massive growth. Plus they are losing a lot of people off the seniority list constantly.

I know a couple military pilots who went to regionals within the last few years and left prior to completing training to gigs that paid a lot better. Since those gigs weren’t part 121 and their resumes and PRIA make it look like they washed out of a part 121 training program and they got double whammied and have been deemed unhireable at majors ever since.

If you leave one regional for another it will be assumed you washed out. Even some of the “better” regionals won’t hire folks directly after they left a training program at another regional. It will be a significant black mark on your record that you may not ever get to explain in an interview setting.

Enjoy life
 

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This guy’s right. All the things in the last paragraph are positives!
Now that you are there, wait it out.
Gumby

Why are you so worried about disclosing the 2 companies. Would make it much easier to understand your particular situation.

probably company B is MESA.... and than I pooped my pants...

Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know the PRIA failure to finish training does not begin until you start the simulator.

Just glanced at some of your other posts...

As a military helo pilot I’m guessing this is first fixed wing turbine employment opportunity. Failing to complete training likely won’t be doing you any favors because you don’t have a lot of successful fixed wing employment experience to show that you can make the jump from helicopter to fixed wing turbine.

Your TT is very low and years away from where you’d be competitive for the majors. Taking 6-8 months to complete training won’t make much of a difference in the scheme of things over a 20-30 year career.

You just came from the military- enjoy the paid vacation. If you’re bored volunteer to help out the folks in pilot recruitment. With the expansion, they’re going to need all the help they can get covering job fairs and college events...

Paid vacations are amazing. Make the most of it... you’ll be able to make up for any lost hours during your training sit by being a line holder immediately finishing training and after you upgrade as the company expands.

Not trying to scare you, but I have seen some of my military peers make some rash employment decisions without fully understanding the consequences and end up spending years trying to recover from them.

Not true. Starts day 1 of training.

Thank you all for the advice. I had gotten a couple other opinions but figured I could come here for unbiased opinions from pilots with similar or hiring experience. You're right, a couple extra months is small out of a whole career, and besides, you've gotta enjoy the journey.

I'll stick with "Company A" because I think they are a pretty good company and the risk of a black mark is something I'd like to avoid if I can.

One other related question: I have heard several people say “just finish training then leave.” Of course I wouldn’t do that (no point and d*ck move), but would that really be any better than someone quitting during training? I’d think wasting all the company’s time and money of training you then leaving would be way worse.


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I believe company A does AQP training.. therefore it starts day 1.

Exit strategy
 

Atta boy, good decision.
All regionals are expecting you to leave when you get the call. They do hope that you’ll be around long enough to repay their considerable investment in you. If you split right away, on a lateral move, to another regional; your commitment to any future employer would be in question.
Gumby

It’s business for the companies... make sure you pay back all of the company $ you recieve. Quitting right after SOE ends won’t win you any popularity contests but at least it won’t look like you’re a helicopter pilot who can’t hack it as an airline guy and washed out of training and therefore is a potential training risk/ liability for any other airline you apply to.

My best advice: enjoy the vacation, get through SOE and fly the Line for a bit before you make your final decision. You need 1000hrs 121 SIC time and 2500TT to upgrade to Captain at most places and even more to be competitive for majors (helicopter time doesn’t count for much unfortunately) You don’t loose anything by hanging out and gaining experience before you leave.

No plans on quitting after training, I had just heard that from a couple folks and it struck me as being worse than a quit during training. Not a helo pilot but I understand what you mean. Thanks for all your advice - very helpful. I'll be sticking with Company A and enjoying the rest of my "vacation."

Sorry, I misread some of your post and thought you were mentioning RTP and Army Rotary... got it now.

Another option that may work at Company A is emailing the training department and volunteering to be available for a short notice training class if someone needs to back out at the last minute (sick, family emergency, etc.). One of my peers was getting pretty ancy about having all the time off and sent a similar email (not asking for training timeline updates mind you but just volunteering to be available for a class on short notice if someone had to back out) and got a slot a couple of classes earlier.

As others said, always finish training and get online once you start. Probably best to finish probation as well so they don't wonder about that. After that a lateral move would be ok if you can articulate good reasons why.

You at Piedmont lol? We get a lot of paid vacation in the beginning and during upgrade, then we get some great hotel appreciation times with our low actual flying schedules. Good news, it’s affecting hiring so I’m sure market demands will effect change. Hold tight, they have little choice but to improve things.

It's all about life of liesure! Sitting at home making money.. benefits is better than anything in the world.. to think, 10 years ago people were happily sitting at home during a furlough not making a penny..

Amen to that!!

If you're at Piedmont, let the training folks know if you're available on short notice.

As for PRIA, there's a lot of bad information out there. The only thing that is reported is your training record and any performance related disciplinary issues. Nothing more and nothing less. Check the box and you'll get a copy of what has been sent.

As for back channel communications, I wouldn't worry about that coming from a large company. Too much liability.