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BEWELCH 03-24-2007 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 138642)
cause it's me. ;)

Damn!!!!!:D

Quagmire 03-24-2007 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 138642)
cause it's me. ;)

Does anybody else suspect that HotMamaPilot's account has been taken over by her RAH pilot husband? With that avatar and all the good info on Republic...

I smell conspiracy. But if that is you, no frickin wonder you moved up so fast in this field. I'd hire you :D

sflpilot 03-24-2007 04:18 PM

Bottom line: They will not cancel flying; someone will fly the airplane.

This may mean changing insurance, violation of the contract or street captains if they can't afford the lower ins. or can't afford the training events. They will NOT raise pay. Management will just push the pilot group as far as they need to. This is typical, they know they won't strike over it. It's simple, the pilot group takes a stand and try to strike if it gets to that or just capitulate. My money is on capitulation, just like everyone else has in this industry.

sflpilot 03-24-2007 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by ryane946 (Post 138555)
Republic has a chance to change wages (for the better) of the entire regional airline industry here. They simply needs to raise their 1st and 2nd year FO rates to something like $30 and $38, respectivley. Pilots will flock from other regional airlines. Then the other regional airlines will have the same pilot staffing problems, and try to one up Republic.

Do not let them cancel your vacation. I know that would never happen, but don't even consider it.

Don't let them hire captains out of seniority order. The company wants to make it appear like this is your and their only solution, and it would be beneficial to both groups. However, you have to realize that if you guys stand firm on this issue, the only other option Republic has is to raise pay to attract more new hires. That can come in the form of hourly rates, signing bonuses, bonuses for current pilots who recommend a pilot candidate, etc...

Republic will NOT cancel their EMB-170 flying (and loose contracts). Just like pilots will never let Republic cancel your vacation. It is just a bluff. Management, unlike pilots, makes a good portion of their money from company stock. Take a look at Republic's stock over the last 6 months (when they have been getting growth).
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor...rm=1&CP=0&PT=5
It has gone up 50% in just 6 months. If you guys loose growth, that stock will go back down. Management is smart enough not to shoot themselves in the foot.


Tell Republic you will not accept any of their proposals, and the only reasonable and prudent thing to do is to raise pay to attract new hires (especially those at other regionals). Again, that can come in the form of hourly rates, signing bonuses, bonuses for current pilots who recommend a pilot candidate, etc...

That won't work, they will just violate the contract. If it goes to court the court won't let the pilots strike, that is the norm these days in labor decisions. Then it's either quit in protest or accept it. This is what the industry has become. It's unfortunate.

SharkyBN584 03-24-2007 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by sflpilot (Post 138756)
That won't work, they will just violate the contract. If it goes to court the court won't let the pilots strike, that is the norm these days in labor decisions. Then it's either quit in protest or accept it. This is what the industry has become. It's unfortunate.

We are not in bankruptcy. A court cannot block a strike. The seniority bypass/vacation cancellation is being fought extremely heavily by the pilot group. It's having a pretty nice effect of getting everyone in line come contract negotiations which should start next month. We should have a pretty strong hand to play.

emj55 03-24-2007 10:31 PM

Yeah, until the President steps in. No airline will ever strike again!

Holy Toledo 03-24-2007 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by sflpilot (Post 138752)
Bottom line: They will not cancel flying; someone will fly the airplane.

This may mean changing insurance, violation of the contract or street captains if they can't afford the lower ins. or can't afford the training events. They will NOT raise pay. Management will just push the pilot group as far as they need to. This is typical, they know they won't strike over it. It's simple, the pilot group takes a stand and try to strike if it gets to that or just capitulate. My money is on capitulation, just like everyone else has in this industry.

Just to clarify, AGAIN

This is not a "low-time" FO problem like Pinnacle and other airlines experience every couple years. It's because of the training events required and the inadequate staffing. The 170 does not have excessive insurance minimums.

dc3driver 03-26-2007 04:14 AM

They are not hiring street capts for the 170. They are reducing 135 flying on the delta side and want to put those pilots where they need them the most. (which would be out of seniority.) The company still runs itself like they have 10 planes and 200 pilots. Some things never change. :mad: The problem is that the company will only pay protect on a one for one basis as opposed to every fo senior to the most junior capt gets bypass pay.

Ellen 03-26-2007 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by XJPILOT1 (Post 138522)
I don't know why we are all suprised? We should have all seen this coming. This is the precursor to higher wages down the line. We should rejoice!! Pilot supply and demand!

I agree. It's about time. The regional (nationals) are beginning to feel the PAIN. MESA ($5,000 sign on if have United Express experience), SKYW exeutive getting canned for operational inefficiencies, RJET pilots upgrading out of seniority order, BigSky Airlines not being able to fill their pilot position in the NE for their new code share with Delta, American Eagle relaxing their minimums and allowing domicle choice . . .

JetJock16 03-26-2007 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 139665)
I agree. It's about time. The regional (nationals) are beginning to feel the PAIN. MESA ($5,000 sign on if have United Express experience), SKYW exeutive getting canned for operational inefficiencies, RJET pilots upgrading out of seniority order, BigSky Airlines not being able to fill their pilot position in the NE for their new code share with Delta, American Eagle relaxing their minimums and allowing domicle choice . . .

Source? Or is it just a rumor you heard from your earthworms?


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