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Tpinks 12-13-2017 10:25 PM

Transitioning from E170/175 to ERJ135?
 
I currently fly the E170/175 and I'm curious how hard of a transition it would be to go to an Erj135. I have never jumpseated on one, so I haven't had the chance to really see the differences between the two first hand as far as cockpit concepts/ergonomics.

If you made the transition at the same company, I'm especially interested in your thoughts since I would imagine your company flew both with the same basic ideologies so it would be more informative on pure aircraft differences.

Rmk1991 12-13-2017 11:13 PM

I'm on the -145 and I have a handful of friends on the 175. I've been upfront on them a handful of times as well. Going from the 175 to the 145 wouldn't be terribly different. There is less automation than on the 175. As long as you aren't flying the legacy, there is no Vnav function of the autopilot. We don't have any Vnav abilities besides being able to build a slope off of a fix and creating a 'carrot' on our PFD. This is only available in long range nav/FMS mode. You can go through a series of pages on the fms and get a little bit more detailed display of exactly how far above and below you are from that slope, but some people don't find it that helpful. Also when it comes to automation, there aren't any auto-throttles. It does still have a FADEC so it's not like flying a -200. Besides that, the overall cockpit is pretty much the same. Smaller and much louder but everything is in the same place. I think the transition would be extremely easy coming from the 175 vs any other aircraft.

Jet Jockey 00 12-14-2017 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by Tpinks (Post 2483093)
I currently fly the E170/175 and I'm curious how hard of a transition it would be to go to an Erj135. I have never jumpseated on one, so I haven't had the chance to really see the differences between the two first hand as far as cockpit concepts/ergonomics.

If you made the transition at the same company, I'm especially interested in your thoughts since I would imagine your company flew both with the same basic ideologies so it would be more informative on pure aircraft differences.


Would be easy. Just requires more decent planning and getting used to no auto throttles. Wouldn't take long to adjust. You might have a little more fun as well.

ORD170 12-14-2017 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Tpinks (Post 2483093)
I currently fly the E170/175 and I'm curious how hard of a transition it would be to go to an Erj135. I have never jumpseated on one, so I haven't had the chance to really see the differences between the two first hand as far as cockpit concepts/ergonomics.

If you made the transition at the same company, I'm especially interested in your thoughts since I would imagine your company flew both with the same basic ideologies so it would be more informative on pure aircraft differences.

I’ve flown both, and it’s no big deal. Obviously no AT on the 135, and the AC does handle differently. Not sure how long you’ve been on the 175, but the flight director cue is V bar on the 135/145, so that may take some getting use to as well. Oh and 1 lav!

TimetoClimb 12-14-2017 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00 (Post 2483146)
Would be easy. Just requires more decent planning and getting used to no auto throttles.

As opposed to the indecent planning we do on the 175?

bigtime209 12-14-2017 07:13 AM

As others have said, obviously the biggest difference will be the reduction in automation. No ATs, more planning on your part as far as descent planning, and a lot more work required doing little things that the 175 does for you- working the bleeds & crossbreeds, setting the landing field elevation for the pressurization, tuning in the ILS course and frequencies...just little things like that. Elevator is linked to the controls via cables instead of hydraulically actuated so you have this turbo prop style gust lock for the controls you have to mess with on the ground. I find the 175 a little easier to land, but by no means is the 135 hard to land. The 135 is pretty fun to fly, like a little sports car. Overall, lots of little differences that make you work a little more, but there are similarities too. It'd take a little getting used to but wouldn't be an overly challenging transition at all.

E175 Driver 12-15-2017 05:33 PM

The E175 have engine underwings which makes it look like a baby 737 from few yards out.

stringandrudder 12-21-2017 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2484263)
The E175 have engine underwings which makes it look like a baby 737 from few yards out.

lol

Filler

Knobcrk1 12-21-2017 06:57 PM

Pull on yoke it goes up. Push down it goes down. Left right, it goes left right. It’s a plane. In a sense the 145 is easier because it’s simple to fly and operate, the systems are pretty much as automated as the 175 too. It’s just more hands on flying.


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