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kalyx522 03-25-2007 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by cheyennedrvr (Post 139231)
I don't know a bunch about EAS contracts, but I am suprised that a 135 op could win one. Maybe my thinking is off, but it seems a bit strange.

Kalyx, I take it you took that plunge at some point in your dark past?

Dido FlyIFR!

Uhm, yes........
as far as the EAS contracts.. a lot of their Hawaii flying is EAS too... when I was working there someone told me that that's how they break even. supposedly, anything other than those EAS contracts is pure profit cuz those contracts provide enough revenue to cover their operating costs. or something like that.

cheyennedrvr 03-25-2007 08:13 PM

mmmmmm, let's see in New Mexico, in the summer, throw in some T-storms, uh, YEAH!!!

Puke-O-Rama

172capt 03-25-2007 08:17 PM

I love how the articles talk about how happy people are Pac Wings got the contract..... what I really wonder is if those people will get in the plane when they arrive at the airport. I don't mind small aircraft and will fly them but passengers are way different. One thing I really hate to do is IFR single engine especially in the mountains ABQ. Wow I don't see how the FAA would allow caravans for paying 121 passengers.

CoATP 03-25-2007 08:18 PM

For scheduled passenger service in a 135 operation an FO or working autopilot is required for IFR flight. If the OP Specs allow an FO they can be used at any time and can log the time as SIC.

Had 9 passengers in a Navajo for EAS would rather had a Caravan.

ImperialxRat 03-25-2007 08:19 PM

Yeah...single engine IFR in mountainous terrain. Sign me up =)

desertdog71 03-25-2007 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by cheyennedrvr (Post 139238)
mmmmmm, let's see in New Mexico, in the summer, throw in some T-storms, uh, YEAH!!!

Puke-O-Rama

Vomit Comet :eek:

Fly IFR 03-25-2007 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by 172capt (Post 139232)
Does anyone else think that 9 pasengers on a caravan is kinda scary.

Actually no. The Caravan has a massive useful load. In other countries they operate them with up to 13 pax believe it or not.

XtremeF150 03-25-2007 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by 172capt (Post 139232)
Have not really got a confirmation on this but heard from numerous people on here that if its written in a companies ops specs that 2 pilots are required then you are able to log it as SIC. Still have never asked the
FAA but maybe I should give them a call aboutthat. Does anyone else think that 9 pasengers on a caravan is kinda scary.

As far as logging SIC goes the 1900 is a single pilot airplane and the only reason the FO can log it is because our OP specs...and Type rating :D Require it. I have heard that there are still a few senior CA's here that have single pilot types so I guess they could do single pilot on the 91 legs if the company would let them.

AIRrAMBO 03-25-2007 10:50 PM

Don't work there...from personal experience.

PW started as air nevada or some crap...looks like there headed back that way.

XJPILOT1 03-26-2007 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by CoATP (Post 139242)
For scheduled passenger service in a 135 operation an FO or working autopilot is required for IFR flight. If the OP Specs allow an FO they can be used at any time and can log the time as SIC.

Had 9 passengers in a Navajo for EAS would rather had a Caravan.

What most of you youngsters don't remember is that the regionals operated Navajo's for the longest time. Some still do. Now every new guy/girl wants the jet. I'd say the Navajo is harder to fly then a jet (less automation).


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