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robthree 03-27-2007 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Islandhopper (Post 139816)
Commuting is the only downfall I see with Pinnacle. But it is the same downfall anywhere you go. If you live in Boston, being based at home is like working part time for the same pay as a full timer. But you have to weigh all the positives and negatives and see what is right for you.

Actually, its more like working full time for the same pay as a part timer.:(

But it is better than commuting. Way better.

First year pay everywhere is criminally low. QOL issues should be your #1 concern, overriding almost everthing else. And if you're unhappy after three or four months on line, don't be afraid to jump ship. Its so much harder to go back to the bottom of a seniority list after you see second year pay.

lowflyby 03-30-2007 04:43 PM

Hey Yzerman, you said that you started on the 26th? So did I. PM me and tell me who you are. Gotta love that intstructor Robert huh?

Yzerman 03-30-2007 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by lowflyby (Post 141716)
Hey Yzerman, you said that you started on the 26th? So did I. PM me and tell me who you are. Gotta love that intstructor Robert huh?

I don't have PM privileges yet.

edit: oh, I guess I do, just wasn't in the place I'm used to seeing it on forums. PM sent.

Flyby1206 03-31-2007 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by sgrd0q (Post 139917)
Just a few words of caution:

1. There is a strong argument to not commute if you can avoid it, no matter what the airline.
2. Upgrade times are hard to predict.
3. Pinnacle upgrade is fast only if you are high time. It you get hired with low times you will be in the right seat for a number of years until you get to 3000 hours (assuming the upgrade minimums don't change). So the Pinnacle upgrade may end up being close to the Eagle upgrade in this case. How many hours do you have?

Living in base is definitely worth so much. I know everyone wants a fast upgrade, but is it for the money or trying to advance to another carrier? Keep in mind, when you get 1000 turbine PIC its still not easy to get hired at major carriers. FDX/SWA wont be knocking your door down once you get in the left seat. Go somewhere you could be happy with long term if necessary. Sadly, another 9/11 could happen tomorrow and upgrades would be non-existant.

Crucero 04-02-2007 09:29 PM

Sorry if this has been answered before, but does Pinnacle have a training contract?
If they do, how long is the commitment?
Finally, Is the $300 per /week during training official?
Thanks........

ctd57 04-03-2007 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Crucero (Post 143093)
Sorry if this has been answered before, but does Pinnacle have a training contract?
If they do, how long is the commitment?
Finally, Is the $300 per /week during training official?
Thanks........

No training contract, yes you do get $300/week, it was $200 when I was there, hotel is also payed for. They used to not pay during training and you had to pay for the hotel. Because we are so short on pilots, they had to start paying guys and paying for the housing to get more applicants.

HIREME 04-03-2007 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by Islandhopper (Post 139479)
Go Pinnacle...the upgrade is the lowest in the industry for an all jet regional. All the regionals are cyclical on who has a great contract, who has early upgrade, etc... Pinnacle is probably the regional with the most potential to make a move in the near future. Rumor (if you believe it) is that the contract is all but complete, and first two years FO pay in going to increase drastically. Also, the pilots there seem to be some of the happiest in the regionals. AE is not a bad company at all, but remember if you go Pinnacle, you will be at a major before you even upgrade at AE.

Actually, Negotiations have stalled at the compensation phase...Also, ask yourself why has PNCL consistantly had a quick upgrade? B/C our turnover is industry leading as well. I had 3 peeps from my initial class that left for other regionals within/shortly after their first year. There are other regionals out there with similar upgrade times that treat you right. However, you could take the gamble that things will get better when the new agreement is completed and the gamble that it will be completed within this year. But remember, it is a gamble. We are about to enter year 3 of negotiations with year 2 complete in May

Crucero 04-03-2007 05:14 PM

Thanks CTD57
 
I'm going to apply now that I found out I have relatives in DTW that I can stay with.
will 800 and 110, crj/fms training help get an interview?
Or are the 1000 TT requirements strict for Non ATP graduates like me?

Thanks..

1forflying 04-03-2007 05:25 PM

I would be applying to everyone right now. You have more time than most in the new hire class at Pinnacle.

Airsupport 04-03-2007 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Crucero (Post 143093)
Sorry if this has been answered before, but does Pinnacle have a training contract?
If they do, how long is the commitment?
Finally, Is the $300 per /week during training official?
Thanks........

yeah, just got a memo today that says it is 300 bucks a week. whats nice is that is 300 bucks, no taxes. you just get the check on friday after class. hahahaha, but dont' get used to it, that is more than you will be making on the line!!! :)


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