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You have obviously never been in a real aircraft emergency. The computers are there to reduce a pilot's workload so he can focus on other issues. They're not meant to take the place of a basic level of skill. Also, there is a huge difference between letting some skills get rusty as opposed to never having them to start with. This is the issue at hand... those skills will never be developed once you start flying a 121 line in a RJ.. In a turboprop.. yes... jet.. most likely not. I haven't seen many experienced pilots (over 3,000 hrs), take your view. |
I personally don't think it makes that much of a difference. it seems like most major accidents are experienced crews. I will say that I think going straight out of training is bad, but after a little bit of flight instructing that should be enough. I flight instructed for 6 months, and at first I think it made me stronger because I gained a lot more confidence, especially flying in a different area of the country, but after the first few months I felt like I was getting dumber. It was very frustrating. Thats my personal story, but I think it really depends on the pilot and their level of confidence. Thats why I think the interview is important. I interviewed at ASA and got the job and I feel I was completely ready with my 800/50. I think what will ruin the industry is the companies that just hire ANYONE regardless of experience, how they interview or flying skills (simulator test). By the way you guys shouldn't complain about it just because you had to have more time to get hired, you should be happy because these people are all bumping up your seniority:)
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be thankful...10 years ago u would be selling t-shirts because u needed 500 multi to do anything...
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At my old employer the previous CEO came to town and was quoted in a meeting saying that since Captains made twice as much as FOs and the planes required 2 pilots the airline was going to put two FOs in the planes instead of the Captain and the FO. That alone would save the company millions...someone had to explane the whole thing to him "sounding it out" of course...
Airline managements don't give a rats you know what about safety, only the perception of safety to the public and media. It will be up to the pilots to turn this lack of experience thing around around via the rules. Inexperience being OK is a detriment to the profession and good solid wages and working conditions. We will all suffer in about 15 years from this worse than the profession is now. |
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Part of the CFI mission is to follow and teach the requirements as set forth by the FAA. Turns around a point, Is it relevant? Absolutely. Can you do the task assigned? It is all building blocks. The CFI learns different ways to accomplish the mission with a variety of people (excellent Capt CRM skills looked for by HR departments, even if you have no contacts) and learning how to do this with different wind conditions. This makes for an excellent pilot if taken professionally. Both for the student and the CFI. The FOI is a good tool any Capt could learn from if they were never a CFI. Quote:
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Read about the Gimli glider, a 767 'modern' jetliner. http://www.casa.gov.au/fsa/2003/jul/22-27.pdf This more accurately explains what a professional can do when faced with shortcomings of a technical problem. How do you explain Capt Haynes' handling of a mechanically stricken DC-10? Hopefully, we never use the monkey skills frequently, but a professional maintains them. I hope firefighters don't get much real experience, but I am glad they train as real as possible. Modern airline training techniques maximize the best of monkey skills with system management. Use technology, not become complacent with it. Sadly many do. |
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Whether we like it or not in the current environment new regional pilots are totally missing the nuts and bolts of stick and rudder flying and for the most part no one cares. We all like to rally around the few aviation heroes that we have as evidence the world still cares about experienced pilots. The truth however is that their are just as many experienced pilots (or more) who have been blamed for killing a plane load of passengers through complacency than there are accredited with saving the ship. SkyHigh |
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People often have suggested that I have a good background of experience and I support that concept. However the airlines are not interested in such things therefore to me those skills are worthless. My generation had to claw our way up to a regional. I wasted more than a decade developing skills that no one wants doing things that have no value on a resume today. Companies now want 20 something RJ pilots with 1000 hours PIC and no other real experience to speak of. A few years ago I was at an Alaska Airlines interview with 12 other pilots they broke us up into groups for the simulator ride. Most were young 20 something RJ captains and there were a few older 737 pilots. All but three failed the sim ride. Over a third of those who failed actually crashed the sim. No one had any real stick and rudder skills. They all were glass cockpit black magic kids. Once the Flight directors and moving maps were gone they all spun out of the sky in short order. I was told that I flew the best ILS that the interview had seen in many months of interviewing. He did not like civilian pilots and did his best to eliminate me, but I hung on. I still however did not get the job. It is the only job that I have ever gone for and did not get. Today I hear that Alaska Airlines has eliminated the simulator ride. Real pilot skills not matter anymore. SkyHigh |
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