Regional FO Job DFW Base
 

If one wants to stay in the DFW area, what regional would be the best bet at this time? It appears that DFW is Envoy’s most senior base, so I was wondering if getting it as a junior FO is even a realistic possibility?

I have a bunch of friends there. They’re all getting screwed with the CRJ700 out of Chicago. If they are able to get the 145 it’s taking them about 6-8 months to get back to DFW then reserve is long.

I’m at Mesa, DFW based, never sat one minute of reserve. If you want a flow go to a WO. If you want to build time and move on, Mesa can fit that bill. It is working for me. Haters are going to hate but I’m happy. EJets are back logged but CRJ training is about back on track.

Buddy of mine is in class at Envoy and out of 33 the bottom half got LGA 145. No DFW

lol.... How is MESA still hiring pilot? ^^^ Guys like this. They are willing to take substandard pay and benefits. They go to a play where they will give you a class date within 2 or 3 minutes of answering the phone.

Please, do yourself a favor. The CRJs are leaving and very few if any get the CRJ. If you are young then you probably will, but hey you are young and you have a great career ahead of you. If you a little bit older then you have a shot at the 175 and 145 and you will be back in DFW before you know it.

MESA or 6-8 months to get back to DFW.... hmmmmmm is this even a choice??

You really have three options here. Envoy, Republic, or Endeavor. Your QOL would be on par for all three if you stayed in DFW. Commuting to Republic, and Endeavor is just about the same QOL as being based at home for Envoy. Pay, Endeavor, Republic, Envoy is the ranking there.

Dude you need to get off your high horse. Repeat after me... Envoy is a regional. Yes. It’s no different than Mesa maybe 5% better, certainly not any better if he has to commute to an Envoy base.. You work at a regional, not American Airlines. It’s embarrassing all the koolaide at the WO. And actually the guy has a better chance of making it to American by going to Mesa and applying from there before his 10 year flow at Envoy.

I hear a lot of “lol Mesa” but no data. There’s some reference to bad management several years ago, but PanAm was a great place to work several years ago as well.

For pay, all regionals that I’ve noted, less EDV and RAH, are sub $40/hr. Maybe insurance is the killer but that just falls into the personal preference category - I personally wouldn’t take any airline’s insurance as retired mil.

I’m not pinging for Mesa, I have no 121 experience. I just never see any 2017-2018 era complaints. I’m not even scheduled to interview with them as of yet, but getting an easy commute out of training is a big deal and they may have that.

Thoughts?

My thoughts are fair and open minded discussions are not the norm on APC...

word is Skywest will have a DFW base by years end. Also BNA soon. So if your looking to get DFW based Skywest may soon be an option.

I’m sure they will after they kill off ASA/XJT there.

Word on the streets is co domicile DAL and DFW. I guess DAL depends on how much more they can expand the Alaska flying. Gate space is limited.

DFW is the most JR base for Mesa, Mesa training is fair, not compared to others like SkyWest. Mesa's interview was a phone screen as it is our culture that your interview is training. Mesa was good to me and has an amazing and awesome pilot group. Also, 300% for open time pick up (great if you live in base). In my opinion, I feel the WO's are nothing special we have had mesa guys go to southwest, and spirit that i know of personally. Overall, choose your poison that works best for you, Good luck!

Hows that going to work when the AA flying would be CRJ's and the Alaska flying is 175's?

Mesa pays a few dollars an hour behind Envoy but at the end of the month you will make 2 to 3 times more at Mesa. There are FO’s at Mesa making more per month than Envoy Captains. Mesa pays 200 and 300% to fill open time. They pay 12 hours pay to come in and sit for a reserve period on your day off.

That’s why it would be a co domicile... put the 175 pilots in DAL and the CRJ pilots in DFW.

The fact that Mesa is offering 300% to entice people to fly is not a good sign for the health of the airline. Not to mention losing 175s etc... Mesa is probably the last place I would recommend right now DFW or not.