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Space Ranger 05-20-2018 12:51 PM

CJ-900 floating tendency
 
Holding short of an adjacent runway the other day, we were positioned to see maybe 15-20 a/c land. Variety of regional and mainline types(a320, 737, EMB190/175, CRJ-900) Of these, all managed to put it down nicely at the 1000 footers, except the -900. Of the 6 CRJ-900s, none put mains down at the 1000 footers, and from our perspective, only 3 made mains on by 1500’. Was this day an anomaly or is the CRJ just tougher to land?

What is your tried and tested landing technique for the -900?

V1 McFlyerson 05-20-2018 01:04 PM

Could it be people not getting the power out soon enough because of the fear of pounding it? I remember that being an airplane you did not want to wipe the power off too soon in.

WesternSkies 05-20-2018 02:36 PM

And what do you fly?

rickair7777 05-20-2018 02:45 PM

No it lands just fine. Normally you take the power out at the ten foot call.

minimwage4 05-20-2018 03:23 PM

Getting major A. Net vibes from this thread. Very strong.

Space Ranger 05-20-2018 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2598428)
And what do you fly?

Full disclaimer I fly the -200 but am scheduled for differences.

AirlineMerc 05-20-2018 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Space Ranger (Post 2598476)
Full disclaimer I fly the -200 but am scheduled for differences.

Sooooo...you’re trained in the 200, but haven’t actually flown it yet?

The floating comes more from trying to bring it down without people’s teeth ending up on the floor. As said previously, you’re chopping the power at 10 feet. They’ll tell you in the sim to chop it at 50, but that’s how you slam it down. The only real way to bring it down on the 1000-footers is if you bring it in with three red on the PAPI....which is against everything you’re trained to do in the 121 world....or if you don’t mind a firm landing. But really, all that matters on a long runway is bringing it down in the TDZ.

701EV 05-20-2018 06:39 PM

Space Ranger, not trying to be snarky, but you do know the difference between the 1000" marker and the Touchdown Zone?

701EV

word302 05-20-2018 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by AirlineMerc (Post 2598541)
Sooooo...you’re trained in the 200, but haven’t actually flown it yet?

The floating comes more from trying to bring it down without people’s teeth ending up on the floor. As said previously, you’re chopping the power at 10 feet. They’ll tell you in the sim to chop it at 50, but that’s how you slam it down. The only real way to bring it down on the 1000-footers is if you bring it in with three red on the PAPI....which is against everything you’re trained to do in the 121 world....or if you don’t mind a firm landing. But really, all that matters on a long runway is bringing it down in the TDZ.

That is not at all the case. You can be on glide path and stick it on the markers. It's very easy to grease it chopping the power at 50 feet if you know what you're doing, contrary to popular opinion.

AirlineMerc 05-21-2018 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2598643)
That is not at all the case. You can be on glide path and stick it on the markers. It's very easy to grease it chopping the power at 50 feet if you know what you're doing, contrary to popular opinion.

What’s the secret to it? I start walking the thrust levers to idle at about 30 feet and it makes for a smoother landing, but it still floats on me.


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