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Old 06-25-2018, 01:11 PM
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The best compensation package, contract, and benefits in PHX is at Compass.
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Old 06-25-2018, 01:57 PM
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The best compensation package, contract, and benefits in PHX is at Compass.
Yeah I can't believe anyone is recommending Mesa to anybody no matter what the circumstance.
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Old 06-25-2018, 05:15 PM
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At Compass you'll get Phoenix out of training
Until something happens..
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Old 06-25-2018, 05:18 PM
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Compass or Skywest. If you plan on upgrading, then Compass. You can actually hold captain in PHX just about as soon as you upgrade. Forget Mesa.
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Old 06-25-2018, 05:20 PM
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Until something happens..
Not unlike any other regional in this screwy business.....
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Originally Posted by GearUpHeadDown View Post
Until something happens..
Good. I hope all the regionals cease to exist one day.

But yeah you're safe at Compass for at least the next 2-5 years at the very minimum.
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Good. I hope all the regionals cease to exist one day.

But yeah you're safe at Compass for at least the next 2-5 years at the very minimum.
2 whole years?? Wow that's super safe.
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2 whole years?? Wow that's super safe.
Hes not selling it as super safe.
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2 whole years?? Wow that's super safe.
No regional is safe long term. Even wholly owneds have been precipitously shut down or sold to someone else. Just ask ex-Comair guys or former Compass guys, since it was Delta owned until 8 years ago.

The only real security in a regional airline - any regional airline - is to get in, get your time, and get out, going to a mainline airline, and generally the faster the better. Compass pilots have been generally pretty successful at that historically.

If you have no other track because of multiple training failures or DUIs or other problems that would keep you from ever being an off the street hire at a major airline, going somewhere that you MIGHT flow to mainline, if that regional (or the whole regional system) is still around in 8-10 years may be your only real shot at a major, but don't kid yourself that it is any sort of a slam dunk.

Like Comair, even a wholly owned might be one incident from oblivion. Investing in time at a regional beyond the minimum necessary to get you hired by a mainline costs you money and mainline seniority.

Everything in life is a trade off and "super safe" is both rare and expensive - at least in opportunity cost - and in the end not much safer than anyone else. Go ahead and put your 401K in good safe US government bonds if you want, I'm going for the index 500 mutual fund. Let's see who does better in the end.

But to each their own.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
No regional is safe long term. Even wholly owneds have been precipitously shut down or sold to someone else. Just ask ex-Comair guys or former Compass guys, since it was Delta owned until 8 years ago.

The only real security in a regional airline - any regional airline - is to get in, get your time, and get out, going to a mainline airline, and generally the faster the better. Compass pilots have been generally pretty successful at that historically.

If you have no other track because of multiple training failures or DUIs or other problems that would keep you from ever being an off the street hire at a major airline, going somewhere that you MIGHT flow to mainline, if that regional (or the whole regional system) is still around in 8-10 years may be your only real shot at a major, but don't kid yourself that it is any sort of a slam dunk.

Like Comair, even a wholly owned might be one incident from oblivion. Investing in time at a regional beyond the minimum necessary to get you hired by a mainline costs you money and mainline seniority.

Everything in life is a trade off and "super safe" is both rare and expensive - at least in opportunity cost - and in the end not much safer than anyone else. Go ahead and put your 401K in good safe US government bonds if you want, I'm going for the index 500 mutual fund. Let's see who does better in the end.

But to each their own.
Thanks for the long, drawn-out post about things I didn't even mention. I never said anything about WO vs non-WO, retirement, or staying longer at any regional. Where in the world did you get that?

Anyway, I just found it humorous that someone is selling a place that they themselves think might be gone in as little as two years, hence my sarcasm. You say get your time asap and get out, which is hard to do if you have to start from the bottom again in 2 years...
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