Tpinks

Not really. Do you know what a TCDS is and have you ever looked at the E170/175's? It will show you all the models of the planes.

All of these planes currently being delivered with 76 seats can only have 76 seats in them not because of scope but because that particular model was limited to 76 seats by Embraer. It would require a recertification of the individual aircraft to install more than 76 seats. A plane can be changed once delivered, but it will cost money to do so. The number of planes delivered at 76 seats far outweighs the number delivered over 76 seats.

Also a 70 seat 175 is not that inefficient. Our E170's and 175's have the same exact engines even though our 170's are slightly lighter. Even though the 175 is slightly heavier, it has a more efficient wing than what the 170 does. The 170 is not in production, so the only option is the 175SC.

Even if United would order a new SNB, that would still open up addition UAX frames, so they might still keep these planes at 70 seats and order more 76 seaters or they could keep the UAX fleet number flat and add the extra seats. My guess is they would do the former.

Blackhawk

Bombardier did this with the CRJ-200, delivering a 40 seat version so Delta could keep under the 50 seat scope. Later these were all converted to 50 seat versions. Just required paying Bombardier some $.

MKUltra

Why are we debating flying crap rjs... we should be hoping these crap planes wind up in the dessert so we're not flying people for crap wages..

sailingfun

Exactly and it was very little money per airframe. The same applies to the E175.

Blackhawk

Yeah, because all of us will be flying 777’s to ABY. 🙄

MKUltra

No.. but it should be mainline.. notus doing mainline flying for crap wages..

calmwinds

Xjet is claiming they won the E175SC lottery.

Blackhawk

Not quite. We are being told if we can get a contract done quickly we will get them. Used in the past, the difference this time is a specific contract (UAL), was mentioned. Also, I think management is panicking as attrition has gone off the charts. Fifty or so pilots hired away last week alone. I think it is finally dawning on them that this is not 2012.

Blackhawk

Well, DO and the MEC claim it’s a done deal at XJT. It will get really ugly really fast if UAL pulls them back.

calmwinds

As far as Xjet, isn’t it really the only hope there has been for years? I would hate to see that hope crushed.

But, United hasn’t said anything to any of its other partners who bid yet —- particularly to GoJet whom is rumored as to losing the 700’s.