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Fixnem2Flyinem 07-26-2018 02:14 PM

Well if mainline doesn’t want to pay decent wages or mainline B scale wages then let the RJ’s die along with the regionals. But I’m sure they’ll keep trying to find ways to find cheap labor in order to keep those flights to BFE going.

rickair7777 07-26-2018 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Fleet Warp (Post 2642939)
I think its been laid out pretty clear that mainline ALPA is 100% senior. They dont give a **** about their own people below their collective seniority level. They dont give a **** that they outsourced their own peoples flying. All they cared about was their bonuses and money. What makes you think they give a flying **** about anyone getting stuck flying a regional jet for decades?

Mainline unions BENEFIT from low labor costs at the regionals, they are not going to expend negotiating capital to reduce their own slice of the pie :confused:

ALPA National knows which side of it's bread is buttered too.

Fleet Warp 07-26-2018 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2643013)
Mainline unions BENEFIT from low labor costs at the regionals, they are not going to expend negotiating capital to reduce their own slice of the pie :confused:

ALPA National knows which side of it's bread is buttered too.

How does cheap labor benefit the union? It benefits the company by a margin. It benefits the senior main line captains who sold scope for pay. That is all. Junior main line pilots are often beginning over again at seniority year zero. And they have reduced opportunities for upgrade due to the smaller fleet. One would even argue the reduced pay and therefore reduced dues hurts the for profit union.

rickair7777 07-26-2018 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Fleet Warp (Post 2643060)
How does cheap labor benefit the union? It benefits the company by a margin. It benefits the senior main line captains who sold scope for pay. That is all. Junior main line pilots are often beginning over again at seniority year zero. And they have reduced opportunities for upgrade due to the smaller fleet. One would even argue the reduced pay and therefore reduced dues hurts the for profit union.

Unions get their money from the senior guys (who will trade scope for $2)

Junior mainline pilots today are VERY interested in scope. But that's not the same as wanting the RJ to make more money at their expense.

Fleet Warp 07-26-2018 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2643080)
Unions get their money from the senior guys (who will trade scope for $2)

Junior mainline pilots today are VERY interested in scope. But that's not the same as wanting the RJ to make more money at their expense.

I never said anything about wanting to make more money at a regional. I answered someone elses question about it. Literally. Thanks for proving that ALPA represents the regionals in bad faith. Now we just need a few thousand disgruntled 2 decade rj captains to finally sue the corrupt bamboozlers at national for it

rickair7777 07-26-2018 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Fleet Warp (Post 2643102)
I never said anything about wanting to make more money at a regional. I answered someone elses question about it. Literally. Thanks for proving that ALPA represents the regionals in bad faith. Now we just need a few thousand disgruntled 2 decade rj captains to finally sue the corrupt bamboozlers at national for it

You quoted me. I was elaborating on your response, not really disagreeing.


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