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Old 08-21-2018, 10:29 AM
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The pay at the regionals serving NYC and other terrible bases will probably reach $200K in the next few years.
Might have to.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:22 AM
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38,000 pilots retire in the next 14 years. Regionals will either pay more or fail.... period
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:19 PM
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That seems to be what most intelligent people do but it’s the less intelligent people who are havin g more kids than they can afford.
Have you ever seen the film Idiocracy?


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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
$100K-$130K is plausible after 10+ years. More for LCA.

A very few sim instructors make $300k+. But that's hard work, only possible because 117 doesn't apply in the sim...

But even so there's always the risk of a COMAIR scenario in your mid-50's, with a couple kids in college...
I've got a couple friends at endeavor that are clocking in 100k at year 3 as Captain sitting reserve.

Someone at ten years from now at Endeavor, if they were unable to move on, could probably be pulling in 140k without much effort at all and have a great schedule.

That's a pretty comfortable amount. I just wouldn't personally bank on any regional being stable enough to be around in ten years. Look how much has changed in the last five.
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Have you ever seen the film Idiocracy?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwZ0ZUy7P3E
I haven’t, but that link you posted goes a long with what I said.
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Old 08-21-2018, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem View Post
38,000 pilots retire in the next 14 years. Regionals will either pay more or fail.... period
Put that in perspective. 38,000 pilots is TWICE the number of pilots at all the regionals, combine.

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Old 08-21-2018, 07:05 PM
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Put that in perspective. 38,000 pilots is TWICE the number of pilots at all the regionals, combine.

“May you live in interesting times.” - Attributed to a Chinese Proverb
Exactly, numbers of this scale have never left the airlines in such a short timespan. In the next 10 years it’s 28,000 so I agree, interesting times ahead. I don’t think a 25 year old could be a lifer at a regional if they wanted to, because the chances of their regional not being greatly impacted by the next decade are very low
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Yes certain markets are more expensive to live in than others. That's not what I was concerned with neither was whether or not one should be able to budget on a six figure income. Everyone has a different story.

If one averaged 100 credit hours a month they would need about $166 per hour to crack 200k. I'm not sure if we will see those kind of rates. Maybe something close to that and retention bonuses would put folks close to the 200 mark. I guess we will find out what the market forces in a few years.
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Yes certain markets are more expensive to live in than others. That's not what I was concerned with neither was whether or not one should be able to budget on a six figure income. Everyone has a different story.



If one averaged 100 credit hours a month they would need about $166 per hour to crack 200k. I'm not sure if we will see those kind of rates. Maybe something close to that and retention bonuses would put folks close to the 200 mark. I guess we will find out what the market forces in a few years.


It’s already being done by sim instructors and Check Airmen at YX. Apparently a few who eat sleep and breathe work are cracking $300K as Check Airmen.


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Put that in perspective. 38,000 pilots is TWICE the number of pilots at all the regionals, combine.

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To me 38,000 is not a huge number, but when you look at it from a standpoint of spots that need to be filled (and not enough bodies to fill them), that is crazy!!
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