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Blackhawk 08-30-2018 05:10 AM

Negativity in the cockpit
 
Come on man. Don't be the guy who drops his stuff on the seat and immediately goes off with f-bombs and such about how the company sucks and won't stop for four days. I get it. I'm not a koolaide drinker and I'm at the same company. But give it a rest. We need to brief, run checklists and fly the stupid airplane at some point. Oh, and no. You're not "laid back in the cockpit." I don't think you know what that means... if it has any meaning at all.
And quit complaining so loud in the terminal, dropping f-bombs and other swear words, that I have to hustle you off to a corner so the passengers stop staring.
And yeah, I get it. Your old company did everything right and this company does everything wrong. Well, not really. Your old company had issues as well. I knew many pilots who worked there. So please can it. Their gone man. Let it go.
And that LCA doing a line check? Yeah, he's doing his job and he's a pretty good dude. Stop giving him crap, open your ears and maybe consider some of his constructive criticism. I've even learned things from FO's and you can too if you listen more than you talk.
And yeah, you've had a tougher road since your still an FO. But I never thought I'd be a 20-year regional captain watching younger FO's get the call. It happens. Your chances of moving on with an attitude like that are diminished. I think that mainline jump seater we had just sent a note to his HR department. "Do NOT hire this dude."

jacburn 08-30-2018 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2664816)
Come on man. Don't be the guy who drops his stuff on the seat and immediately goes off with f-bombs and such about how the company sucks and won't stop for four days. I get it. I'm not a koolaide drinker and I'm at the same company. But give it a rest. We need to brief, run checklists and fly the stupid airplane at some point. Oh, and no. You're not "laid back in the cockpit." I don't think you know what that means... if it has any meaning at all.
And quit complaining so loud in the terminal, dropping f-bombs and other swear words, that I have to hustle you off to a corner so the passengers stop staring.
And yeah, I get it. Your old company did everything right and this company does everything wrong. Well, not really. Your old company had issues as well. I knew many pilots who worked there. So please can it. Their gone man. Let it go.
And that LCA doing a line check? Yeah, he's doing his job and he's a pretty good dude. Stop giving him crap, open your ears and maybe consider some of his constructive criticism. I've even learned things from FO's and you can too if you listen more than you talk.
And yeah, you've had a tougher road since your still an FO. But I never thought I'd be a 20-year regional captain watching younger FO's get the call. It happens. Your chances of moving on with an attitude like that are diminished. I think that mainline jump seater we had just sent a note to his HR department. "Do NOT hire this dude."

Do you work for ExpressJet?

Captain Kirk 08-30-2018 05:56 AM

Sounds like the guy 2 weeks ago at the D gates in LGA *****ing to anyone and everyone that dispatch filed him to PHL at 6000'.
C'mon man and take the 30 pieces of "flair" off your tie too. I know 15 pieces is the minimum but you look like a fool.

Blackhawk 08-30-2018 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Kirk (Post 2664856)
Sounds like the guy 2 weeks ago at the D gates in LGA *****ing to anyone and everyone that dispatch filed him to PHL at 6000'.
C'mon man and take the 30 pieces of "flair" off your tie too. I know 15 pieces is the minimum but you look like a fool.

Did someone call him a wambulance?

Captain Kirk 08-30-2018 06:07 AM

It was so cringeworthy!
After going on and on to the crews that were there, he then bitc$ed to the gate agents and then the passengers. What a scene he was making.

flydiamond 08-30-2018 06:13 AM

If it was truly as big a scene as you describe and in front of the passengers, don’t just complain here on an anonymous forum, call pro stans. Someone behaving like that degrades the profession. I hope you said something to him as well.

SonicFlyer 08-30-2018 06:52 AM

Oh, you mean this guy?





https://youtu.be/rNxz2hhSXuY?t=2m30s

MidnightHauler 08-30-2018 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2664896)

Best laugh I've had all week! Thanks for posting!

Captain Kirk 08-30-2018 07:07 AM

That was him😁

rickair7777 08-30-2018 07:10 AM

Anybody who's "stuck" as a regional FO should be doing it by choice (I know some, mil retirement, hubby flies for FDX, etc).

If you've been a regional FO more than a couple years and can't upgrade, take a DEC job, then hopefully move on to the bigs.

If you think you can career progress and maintain your schedule/QOL along the way you're delusional.

Blackhawk 08-30-2018 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2664914)
Anybody who's "stuck" as a regional FO should be doing it by choice (I know some, mil retirement, hubby flies for FDX, etc).

If you've been a regional FO more than a couple years and can't upgrade, take a DEC job, then hopefully move on to the bigs.

If you think you can career progress and maintain your schedule/QOL along the way you're delusional.

Especially if you're so stinking miserable at your current airline. I mean I get it for some people who have roots and don't want to commute and are otherwise happy. But why in the world in today's environment would you stay at a place that makes you hate life?? This isn't 2012.

8ballfreight 08-30-2018 08:03 AM

Man I hate to say it but this is the stink that this airline has been giving off publicly for years.

TeamSasquatch 08-30-2018 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2664896)

That’s so good! All 3 parts are spot on!

havick206 08-30-2018 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Kirk (Post 2664856)
Sounds like the guy 2 weeks ago at the D gates in LGA *****ing to anyone and everyone that dispatch filed him to PHL at 6000'.
C'mon man and take the 30 pieces of "flair" off your tie too. I know 15 pieces is the minimum but you look like a fool.

If it’s the same guy I’m thinking of he does that every other flight.

SonicFlyer 08-30-2018 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2664905)
Best laugh I've had all week! Thanks for posting!

That is only 1 in a 3 part series. The other 2 are out there and are just as good. :D

Blackhawk 08-30-2018 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by 8ballfreight (Post 2664954)
Man I hate to say it but this is the stink that this airline has been giving off publicly for years.

Every airline has these pilots. And it doesn’t matter how well things turn out for them they are still just as miserable.

MaxQ 08-31-2018 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2665057)
Every airline has these pilots. And it doesn’t matter how well things turn out for them they are still just as miserable.

Hi Blackhawk,

At my previous airline, (pretty good place, competitive narrow body pay with the majors the later years) had a guy who my joke was " so&so gets up in the morning and goes "phuck, I'm still alive" "

Not a bad guy, and after a while it was just comical. He retired when we folded up shop. Always hoped that cheered him up.

TransWorld 08-31-2018 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by MaxQ (Post 2665889)
Hi Blackhawk,

At my previous airline, (pretty good place, competitive narrow body pay with the majors the later years) had a guy who my joke was " so&so gets up in the morning and goes "phuck, I'm still alive" "

Not a bad guy, and after a while it was just comical. He retired when we folded up shop. Always hoped that cheered him up.

Knew a guy for whom we said of him, a day without giving an a**chewing to each and everyone he met was like a day without sunshine.


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