Gov shutdown affect PRIA?

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12-27-2018, 07:28 PM

Ramen4dinner

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Gov shutdown affect PRIA?

Regional sent PRIA requests the week before Christmas; is the government shutdown going to stop the release of PRIA info from FAA? If so that sucks.... I already have ATP so I don’t have an issue with taking the written

12-29-2018, 06:37 AM

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Possibly. That is the sort of lower-priority government function which might be suspended.

12-29-2018, 09:22 AM

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From what I can gather PRIA is a function that is affected by the shutdown. However, you can start training before your clear PRIA:

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/lic_cert/pria/requesting/media/pria_air_carrier_request_procedures.doc

Will depend on individual airlines policy I suppose.

12-29-2018, 09:31 AM

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Airman Certification Branch is effectively closed during the shutdown, so PRIA responses will definitely be delayed.

Aside from ATC, the only parts of the FAA that are running "business as usual" are medical certification and the aircraft registry (thanks to NBAA's lobbying a few years back).

12-29-2018, 06:29 PM

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From what I can gather PRIA is a function that is affected by the shutdown. However, you can start training before your clear PRIA:

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/lic_cert/...procedures.doc

Will depend on individual airlines policy I suppose.

Airlines can definitely train you before they get the PRIA data, and they might even be able to let you fly the line. Airlines are required by law to request PRIA data, but they are not actually required to wait for it in all cases (Good Faith Exemption). Some might prefer to wait, understandably, but I doubt many would cancel flights while waiting for the fed to get it's poop together.

12-30-2018, 06:59 AM

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According to the PRIA guidance, it doesn't appear that the "good faith" exemption applies to records held by the FAA. Order 8000.88 indicates that the exemption applies only to records held by air carriers that no longer exist and/or foreign civil aviation authorities. So while carriers can certainly train pilots without complete PRIA, I don't think they'd be justified in releasing a pilot to the line without the FAA records.

An extended shutdown is obviously a situation that wasn't specifically considered when the guidance was drafted, and I'm not really sure what options carriers will have if this drags on.