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ERJ Rwy Excursion at IAH
Looks like a 135/145 went off roading at IAH. Runway 26L closed, NOTAMED disabled aircraft on runway. Hope there were no injuries.
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Originally Posted by TheFly
(Post 2721463)
Looks like a 135/145 went off roading at IAH. Runway 26L closed, NOTAMED disabled aircraft on runway. Hope there were no injuries.
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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
(Post 2721671)
It was yesterday during the bad weather I believe. A lot of aircraft went around and some diverted so it was obviously a very difficult landing environment.
Incident: Expressjet E145 at Houston on Dec 7th 2018, runway excursion on landing |
So is this something to get fired for?
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Nobody gets fired in this day and age unless they were doing something egregious. XJT does have pretty low go-around numbers and they try to address that every year in recurrent. 45 knot crosswind, it’ll be us and southwest landing and that’s it.
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Originally Posted by simscott
(Post 2721998)
So is this something to get fired for?
Honest mistake, probably keep your job. Will slow your progression to the majors, especially if you end up on the news. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2722057)
Depends on the CVR. If it's painful listen, gross unprofessionalism and sustained violation of sterile will not help your case.
Honest mistake, probably keep your job. Will slow your progression to the majors, especially if you end up on the news. You can not be fired for anything on the CVR unless you say something really really negligent that would compromise safety. They can not take any action on you with the CVR. On the other hand good luck at recurrent because you most likely will be remembered. |
Originally Posted by TangoIndiaMike1
(Post 2722962)
You can not be fired for anything on the CVR unless you say something really really negligent that would compromise safety. They can not take any action on you with the CVR.
On the other hand good luck at recurrent because you most likely will be remembered. Reality... There will be honest mistakes on the CVR, and perhaps some that are borderline "not honest". They get to decide whether to fire you for those. Suppose they listen to 1:45 of two dudes trash-talking the company and management, followed by :15 of weak checklist, weak SOP, and blatant sterile violation. By the time they get to the main event and the "honest-ish" mistakes, what frame of mind do you think they'll be in? And as you mentioned at some airlines an event like this will set the tone for your next sim. And determine who the examiner will be. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2722994)
Nice theory.
Reality... There will be honest mistakes on the CVR, and perhaps some that are borderline "not honest". They get to decide whether to fire you for those. Suppose they listen to 1:45 of two dudes trash-talking the company and management, followed by :15 of weak checklist, weak SOP, and blatant sterile violation. By the time they get to the main event and the "honest-ish" mistakes, what frame of mind do you think they'll be in? |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2722994)
Nice theory.
Reality... There will be honest mistakes on the CVR, and perhaps some that are borderline "not honest". They get to decide whether to fire you for those. Suppose they listen to 1:45 of two dudes trash-talking the company and management, followed by :15 of weak checklist, weak SOP, and blatant sterile violation. By the time they get to the main event and the "honest-ish" mistakes, what frame of mind do you think they'll be in? And as you mentioned at some airlines an event like this will set the tone for your next sim. And determine who the examiner will be. Skywest has fired people before for what they heard on the CVR. It sounds like you are referencing that event. |
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