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Old 12-13-2018, 03:04 PM
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Don’t advise a multi leg commute. This person is asking for advice and that’s not the direction you want to point someone in.
Only so many direct commutes
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Don’t advise a multi leg commute. This person is asking for advice and that’s not the direction you want to point someone in.
I am in no way suggesting it as optimal. My recommendation is, and always will be: LIVE IN BASE! Period. Full stop.

But those for whom that is not feasible, or have a compelling reason to do the commute, will try to make it as easy/trouble free/ least sucky as possible.

I did many years of a quick 45min commute, hourly departures as a online non-rev with 3-4 more offlines w/ FL or WN as a backup. And I had a 5 hour drive as a backstop. Probably one of the best commutes possible, but there were still times that it sucked the life out of me and wrecked havoc on my QOL.

The relatively short time I had to do JAX-LGA was a different experience. When it worked, it worked pretty good. When it went south, (and if you have operated much out of N90, you know how often that is) it required creativity to avoid QOL disasters. 3 directs a day on CR9s (2 on the weekends)is not a lot to work with, and it is advisable to have plans B-Z ready to go, especially w/ the AMR/DL interline agreement back in play. There's loads, there's weather, and there's MX/unpredictable stuff. Each might require a different mitigation strategy.

If loads are the killer, there are a lot of seats moving between NYC and FL, so the possibilities are endless, but the degree of difficulty goes up exponentially. MCO, DAB or SAV are an option. 2 legs through CLT, ATL, DCA or BWI or even FLL/MIA (I dont know if WN or 3M are still doing TPA) are a possibility. EWR+Airporter might work in a pinch . Maybe UAL to ORD + Shuttle if its a quiet day in the upper midwest. Forgot that B6 also does BOS, so add that w/ the original 2 leg option. For any 2 leg- more options on leg 2 (frequency, like the Shuttles and/or multiple carriers, like ATL) is always better - avoid getting boxed in if possible. If weather is causing the heartache, an idea of which side door vectors in or out might work when they have shut the front door could be the only way- local knowledge can be a big help.

Some of the simpler ones I actually had to do, all the twisted ones were just in my back pocket, but that kinda shows my stress level. None of it is any fun, unless you are some twisted commuting masochist. But its the reality. The more you try to protect the commute, the more of your time/life you have to give up. And once you leave plan A, it's a lot of balls in the air.



Caveat Emptor, and good luck.
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I am in no way suggesting it as optimal. My recommendation is, and always will be: LIVE IN BASE! Period. Full stop.

But those for whom that is not feasible, or have a compelling reason to do the commute, will try to make it as easy/trouble free/ least sucky as possible.

I did many years of a quick 45min commute, hourly departures as a online non-rev with 3-4 more offlines w/ FL or WN as a backup. And I had a 5 hour drive as a backstop. Probably one of the best commutes possible, but there were still times that it sucked the life out of me and wrecked havoc on my QOL.

The relatively short time I had to do JAX-LGA was a different experience. When it worked, it worked pretty good. When it went south, (and if you have operated much out of N90, you know how often that is) it required creativity to avoid QOL disasters. 3 directs a day on CR9s (2 on the weekends)is not a lot to work with, and it is advisable to have plans B-Z ready to go, especially w/ the AMR/DL interline agreement back in play. There's loads, there's weather, and there's MX/unpredictable stuff. Each might require a different mitigation strategy.

If loads are the killer, there are a lot of seats moving between NYC and FL, so the possibilities are endless, but the degree of difficulty goes up exponentially. MCO, DAB or SAV are an option. 2 legs through CLT, ATL, DCA or BWI or even FLL/MIA (I dont know if WN or 3M are still doing TPA) are a possibility. EWR+Airporter might work in a pinch . Maybe UAL to ORD + Shuttle if its a quiet day in the upper midwest. Forgot that B6 also does BOS, so add that w/ the original 2 leg option. For any 2 leg- more options on leg 2 (frequency, like the Shuttles and/or multiple carriers, like ATL) is always better - avoid getting boxed in if possible. If weather is causing the heartache, an idea of which side door vectors in or out might work when they have shut the front door could be the only way- local knowledge can be a big help.

Some of the simpler ones I actually had to do, all the twisted ones were just in my back pocket, but that kinda shows my stress level. None of it is any fun, unless you are some twisted commuting masochist. But its the reality. The more you try to protect the commute, the more of your time/life you have to give up. And once you leave plan A, it's a lot of balls in the air.



Caveat Emptor, and good luck.
This is what’s great about the Endeavor positive space commuting policy. Have the RJ nonstop as the primary. If it gets severely delayed/canceled call crew scheduling and they’ll positive space you on both legs of your mainline backup (JAX-ATL-LGA), even if flights are oversold. Takes a lot of the stress of getting to work away.
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