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TurbineSuburban 02-05-2019 11:13 PM
United’s new CRJ-550
 
Looks like United has a new solution for their regional flying, or at least to replace CRJ-200, with the CRJ-550. Seems to be a CRJ-700 fitted with only 50 seats.

Under the plan, United will work with Bombardier to use the frame of its current CRJ 70-seat fleet for a new two-cabin, 50-seat configuration with a self-serve beverage and snack station for premium travelers and four storage closets for carry-on bags.

The CRJ 550s will eventually replace United’s current 50-seat regional fleet with a model permitted under its pilots’ contract, which became amenable in January.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ual-capacity/united-to-add-premium-seats-on-regional-and-mainline-jets-idUSKCN1PV0BF?il=0

amcnd 02-05-2019 11:34 PM
The saving grace for GoJet and Mesa...

ninerdriver 02-06-2019 04:06 AM
Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2757788)
The saving grace for GoJet and Mesa...
...and the sweats move to TSA and Air Whiskey.

Rotor2prop 02-06-2019 05:51 AM
I think we will see an announcement soon about Skywest or Endeavor picking up the GoJet Delta flying.

How many airframes are on the Delta side?

JayD 02-06-2019 06:10 AM
Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2757788)
The saving grace for GoJet and Mesa...
Just when we all thought we had it figured out United throws this brilliant curve ball.

United’s pilots holding out on scope created this one, and as a previous UA FF for 10+ years (just started my path to the flight deck this week) this is not only a great move for pilots, but also for the general flying public.

DarkSideMoon 02-06-2019 06:17 AM
Originally Posted by JayD (Post 2757889)
Just when we all thought we had it figured out United throws this brilliant curve ball.

United’s pilots holding out on scope created this one, and as a previous UA FF for 10+ years (just started my path to the flight deck this week) this is not only a great move for pilots, but also for the general flying public.
More regional jets is not a good move for pilots.

rickair7777 02-06-2019 06:24 AM
Originally Posted by JayD (Post 2757889)
Just when we all thought we had it figured out United throws this brilliant curve ball.
Does UA scope not address MGTOW as well as seats?

JetDoc 02-06-2019 07:12 AM
Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2757904)
Does UA scope not address MGTOW as well as seats?
If they are simply replacing 200's with these new "550's", MGTOW really doesn't apply here right? A fully loaded 700 weighs under the 86,000 lb limit and I don't see how this new configuration wouldn't as well. As long as it is a one for one swap I don't see an issue.

JayD 02-06-2019 07:13 AM
Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2757898)
More regional jets is not a good move for pilots.
This is replacing current 50 seaters with a 50 seat product the actual flying public will fly in.

I’m sure the thinking is to attract more passengers. Then upguage these 50 seat routes to 175s, upguage the 175 routes to mainline which adds more mainline.

DarkSideMoon 02-06-2019 07:19 AM
Originally Posted by JayD (Post 2757973)
This is replacing current 50 seaters with a 50 seat product the actual flying public will fly in.

I’m sure the thinking is to attract more passengers. Then upguage these 50 seat routes to 175s, upguage the 175 routes to mainline which adds more mainline.
The more customer pressure there is on united to get rid of 50 seat jets, the more pressure there is to add more mainline aircraft to expand 70/76 seat scope. The more 50 seat jets there are, the less mainline aircraft there will be.

terks43 02-06-2019 07:28 AM
Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2757898)
More regional jets is not a good move for pilots.
Bingo, we should ALL be hoping that the regional flying model fails and that flying goes back in house.

captive apple 02-06-2019 07:59 AM
Good for United. Pilots have been saying the 700 would make a great 50 seater for years. United could still screw up the execution by leaving dead space for pitch commonality. No green tagged bags is a huge boost for passenger experience and they could shrink the aft cargo bin footprint giving even more cabin space for a fwd lav.

flysooner9 02-06-2019 08:29 AM
Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2757904)
Does UA scope not address MGTOW as well as seats?
Even if it does. The CRJ-550 is a new type. I’m sure it’ll have a certified MGTOW of whatever UA wants it to have. That’s likely why they aren’t just reconfiguring a 700.

Cefiro 02-06-2019 08:47 AM
Wonder if this could be the dual class flying that was agreed to in the Xjet sale for SKW.

animation 02-06-2019 09:01 AM
Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2758058)
Even if it does. The CRJ-550 is a new type. I’m sure it’ll have a certified MGTOW of whatever UA wants it to have. That’s likely why they aren’t just reconfiguring a 700.
It’ll be 65,000lbs MGTOW

C37AFE 02-06-2019 09:12 AM
Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2758058)
Even if it does. The CRJ-550 is a new type. I’m sure it’ll have a certified MGTOW of whatever UA wants it to have. That’s likely why they aren’t just reconfiguring a 700.
I thought article said just that, that they were reconfiguring gojets 700s

Under the plan, United will work with Bombardier to use the frame of its current CRJ 70-seat fleet for a new two-cabin, 50-seat configuration with a self-serve beverage and snack station for premium travelers and four storage closets for carry-on bags.

Mesabah 02-06-2019 09:32 AM
Originally Posted by C37AFE (Post 2758099)
I thought article said just that, that they were reconfiguring gojets 700s

Under the plan, United will work with Bombardier to use the frame of its current CRJ 70-seat fleet for a new two-cabin, 50-seat configuration with a self-serve beverage and snack station for premium travelers and four storage closets for carry-on bags.
Bombardiers current CRJ700 frame, not United, they are factory new airplanes.

amcnd 02-06-2019 09:42 AM
Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2758130)
Bombardiers current CRJ700 frame, not United, they are factory new airplanes.
They are not new factory aircraft...service bulletin changes fadec, mtow, seating, longer engine life..

N6279P 02-06-2019 09:58 AM
Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2758130)
Bombardiers current CRJ700 frame, not United, they are factory new airplanes.
Did you read the article?

Mesabah 02-06-2019 10:13 AM
Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2758170)
Did you read the article?
I'm reading Bombardiers press release, other media outlets get it wrong, case it point, the other article from aerotimes says they are for Delta.

stabapch 02-06-2019 10:14 AM
Originally Posted by JayD (Post 2757889)
Just when we all thought we had it figured out United throws this brilliant curve ball.

United’s pilots holding out on scope created this one, and as a previous UA FF for 10+ years (just started my path to the flight deck this week) this is not only a great move for pilots, but also for the general flying public.
If United really cared about pilots OR customers, they wouldn’t be using 10 different regionals to service their network.

UALfoLIFE 02-06-2019 11:11 AM
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/united-expands-premium-push-with-new-dual-class-crj5-455565/

The first ones will not be new airframes.


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