Originally Posted by John Carr

Probably because they worked at Atlas...

Originally Posted by Long Landing

The Minneapolis thing is taken out of context. What I meant by it is I didn’t want to commute farther than Minneapolis but wouldn’t rule out the west coast. But whatever. Either way I was not trying to be condescending nor was I trying to give life advice. Everyone has their reasoning behind their logic. What I am saying was that this is, from my experience and what I do, what is looked for and makes people stand out. I guess I didn’t necessarily come off as well as I intended too. What I was trying to state was that it is a well rounded employee that they’re looking for not just quantity of total time/PIC. And by the same token if you do a ton of volunteering but also lack in areas such as total time/PIC or have a low college GPA then you are equally not as marketable.

I don’t argue with people who stay at a regional for their career. The regionals aren’t a terrible career in today’s world. 10 years ago I wouldn’t ever imagine wanting to spend my life at any of these places but I understand that people didn’t have a choice. The point I was trying to get at was a good amount of posts were aimed at people who are young and don’t understand what those “before us” went through and don’t deserve to be in the positions they are. Like I said I work for a regional. I know people younger than me with less time and experience picked up by a major airline. I don’t look down on them but rather I say “what can I do that they did to help me get hired too.”

You’re right maybe I am young and don’t understand anything about the world. But I also know that going through life miserable about where you are and everything else that is going on around you is no way at all to live.

(And for the guy concerned about paragraphs there ya go. Didn’t realize it was all that important as I’m posting from my phone...)

Originally Posted by dera

Given that the top of the list has been here since the early 80's and haven't flowed, I doubt that was ever the case.
Happy to be corrected if that's not how it was.

Originally Posted by ICUROOK

There is not going to be another downturn, at least not one as bad as 2008, for a long time.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

That's true today. In the old days the flow was mandatory, and AA mainline also forced you to upgrade when you were senior enough, ie couldn't camp out at the top of the FO list.

Originally Posted by Cujo665

Flow was never mandatory.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

I know there were people forced to flow involuntarily at one point. Not sure what the genesis of that was.

Originally Posted by MySaabStory

That was them complaining. “Forced” is a loose term they used because they already made the decision and wanted to change it later in the game. It was a one time choice.

Typical babies wanting 2 bites of the apple.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Ah. So they had to elect flow well in advance of the actual flow opportunity? And regretted it when their number came up?

Originally Posted by Learflyer

ARE YOU KIDDING? Obviously you’ve never been through the few recessions of the last 25 years. And no, even the regionals weren’t hiring during the worst of economic downturns. I remember I couldn’t even get a CFI job. So spare me. And please don’t deny another economic downturn nor berate another for playing it conservative by staying at a regional.