If you could choose between E-RJ or C-RJ
 

I've been given the chance to choose between the C-rj or E-rj. What are some thought on which is the most user friendly airplane.

uh oh.... not this again. :D

http://airlinepilotforums.com/showth...&highlight=erj

Depends, I'll take a ERJ145 over a CRJ200 any day of the week.

I'll take a CRJ700 over a ERJ145 or a CRJ200 any day of the week, but I will take an E170 over CRJ700 any day of the week.

The CRJ on FlightSimX!!:D

Ok, seriously....Never flew either of em...
Only had a sim eval in the CR.....didn't get the play with any of the knobs and switches:mad:
The ram horns on the ER look ridiculously cool though :-/

But if I could choose? Prolly the CR...because it's a hot looking plane;)
except that stretched out version...crjk

If it helps you at all, I flew with a guy that use to fly the 200 at ACA, and he said that he likes the Embraer product better, particularly the LR and XR models. My only experience has been with the ERJ, and is a whole lot of fun to fly.

Agreed, and the final answer is................NEITHER!

They both pay crap.

Canadian components, Brazilian components....ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!!!

I'll fly the one that lets me get out of it the quickest :D

My instructor has a type rating in the CRJ and said that before you flare, you have to trim full nose up. Maybe that was just in the sim but I have been wondering if that applies to the real CRJ. :?

With no PAX in the King Air I have to use full nose up trim during landing. Keeps you busy during a go-around. :D

Ahhhhh..................No. Two or three adjustments nose up is all that's needed, anymore and the a/c will float or climb.

As for which a/c, look at all the domiciles and choose the one that works best for you. Closest to home, number of flights, are the flights company (makes commuting MUCH MUCH easier), can you live there, does family live there, price of crash pads and what ever other questions you might have. After you have your domicile then choose your equipment. Remember that QOL (quality of life) is much more important than equipment.

Ok, that's what I figured. It didn't make sense that Canadair would make the CRJ that difficult to land. I guess it was just a sim thing or something? No clue.

700 goes higher / faster than the baby bus 170.

Funny, I don't recall doing that on any of my landings, sim or the real thing. The thing loves to float if you're just a lil fast..... when you're right on, she settles nicely, no excessive maneuvers needed.

Now all it has to do is climb up to that altitude and it'll be good to go :eek:

I flew the CRJ for 10 years and NEVER EVER used trim in the flare.

I have a lesson with him today so I'll ask him why they trained him that way. I think he did the sim at UND but I could be mistakened. Like I said, I can't imagine any aircraft manufacturer making their plane that difficult to land. I always imagined the CRJ as a rather docile aircraft to land.

thats all pilot technique but its generally not recommended in the flare because you got more precision from control inputs. the effects of trim in the flare on most airplanes would probably occur too slowly ?

What? Have you ever flown a jet? When you're in ground effect you're still doing about 130kts average depending on your weight and preset ref speed. The point is you still have enough flow over all the controlling surfaces, and they still have enough authority, again, once you start flying something bigger than a cessna you'll see what I'm talking about. The trim is very responsive on the flare.

The CRJ lands like a dream once you get the hang of it. I have yet to ride through any greasers in the ERJ. I'd choose the E170 then the CRJ then the WSCOD.

Ok,, that almost sounds scary!!! a few helpful hints.

n1 setting on landing is pretty close to your weight card plus 20.. For example if you are landing using the 47,000lb card, your n1 setting would be very close to 67%, add a couple extra for stronger winds.

The trim setting for landing is almost exactly what it was for take off. For example if you take off with 7.2, then a VERY GOOD trim setting for landing would be very close to 7.2. once again these are just tips, and will get you very close to what you want. Time and experience will help you tweak it just right.

Whichever offer pays the best, has the best base, and is from the best company is the airplane I'd prefer.

CRJ 2, 7 or 900. Any day. Hands down.


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The ERJ is more comfy up front, IMHO.

BTW, I use trim in the flare all the time.... works like a charm.

Oh, they exist. You just have to get the hang of it. I've had good and bad. Sometimes ya roll em on, and other times its just a little plunk. Of course, there is also the occasional one which I just drive it into the pavement.:o :o

Ditto. I've seen it rolled on plenty of times, and even I have a good one every now and then. Of course, I used to fly the Dash, so any airplane's landings are better by comparison.

I heard that girls are all about the girth. Thats one point for the CRJ pilots.

Nicknames: Barbie Jet vs WSCoD. One more point for the CRJ.

Actually, I've heard the ERJ called both.

http://www.embraerdefensesystems.com...three_view.asp


ERJ wins.

(You don't see a whole lot of CRJ's with missile systems)

might work in a crj but when you move on to a bigger airplane with a much larger horizontal stab, could be trouble. a lot of tail strikes are attributed to trimming in the flare

When people ask me about the vortilons i tell them those are the hard points for the missiles:D

PS
I'm a mediocre pilot at best and even I can roll the ERJ on once in a while.

Question for Ghilis or someone "in-the-know".
 

For whom does Ghilis101 fly?

nobody right now

Trimming all the way up for landing wouldn't work out well for the Go Around, but Blastboy, that knowledge will all come with experience :).

Having the choice is great! I'm a 145-Driver, and I've got two interviews next week, one being for the right seat in a CRJ...

Now for my opinion: I am in LOVE with the EMB. The Flight Deck is far more aesthetically pleasing, the Ram-horn Yoke is comfortable as hell, she flies (and lands) like a dream, the EFIS is Sharp and Crisp, and she just plain looks cool.

BTW, she also flies like a real-plane. What is that 5 Degree nose-down on Approach in the -200?!

I've also jumpseated on some CRJ-200's, and I have to say I was not impressed - Not too thrilled about the aircraft swap (I WOULD take a 700/900, however), but for the right company I'd do it...

In the end, at this point in your career, It makes sense to build around QOL, NOT equipment...that comes later in your career ;-)

Best of Luck!

the best thing i ever heard about the two airplanes:

One falls apart in Portugese.

The other falls apart in French (french canadian)

pick your language

Now that's funny! :D

Sacre Bleu!!!!!!