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Dragon Jet 05-06-2019 09:46 AM

Piedmont,CommutAir,Mesa or Express Jet
 
Just wondering which one would be better choice when it comes to life quality and long term employment .

Thanks in advance

Phoenix21 05-06-2019 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Dragon Jet (Post 2815240)
Just wondering which one would be better choice when it comes to life quality and long term employment .

Thanks in advance

Out of that list? ExpressJet by far has the best Quality of life and long term employment potential now that it is owned by United as long as you don’t care that it’s 5.5 years to upgrade on the 145 and about 20 on the 175. Those times should drop as 175s come on line.

Newstick189 05-06-2019 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Dragon Jet (Post 2815240)
Just wondering which one would be better choice when it comes to life quality and long term employment .

Thanks in advance

Can’t speak for Commutair, but PDT has industry bottom QOL. You will work down to 11 days a month for 75 hours of credit and take 2+ years to upgrade because of how slow our training is and how little we hours we fly.

Expressjet is known for having a top tier QOL.

I think all 3 airlines will be around for a long time, since they are all owned wholly or in part by major airlines.

FmrPropCapt 05-06-2019 12:12 PM

Long term prospects PDT hands down. QOL they have the worst though. C5 I wouldn't consider but that's another discussion

send a check 05-06-2019 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Dragon Jet (Post 2815240)
Just wondering which one would be better choice when it comes to life quality and long term employment .

Thanks in advance

Where do you live?? If you can avoid commuting that is a nice first step.

FmrPropCapt 05-06-2019 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by send a check (Post 2815400)
Where do you live?? If you can avoid commuting that is a nice first step.

I wish I had started off with this. Living in base will make your QOL so so sooooo so much better even with 11 or 12 off

Fourpaw 05-06-2019 06:07 PM

Endeavor:confused:

OpMidClimax 05-07-2019 04:55 AM

Honestly, republic....

Cujo665 05-07-2019 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Dragon Jet (Post 2815240)
Just wondering which one would be better choice when it comes to life quality and long term employment .

Thanks in advance

Of the ones you listed? Piedmont

The long term viability of the non wholly owned is not good. One major at a recent town hall told their employees that other than Republic, SkyWest, and ExpressJet; the only long term survivors of the shortage will be the WO's.

I'd go first to whichever has a large base in your home city. Nota small base, since as the shortage deepens, small bases will get closed as too inefficient. The QOL advantage of not commuting makes a regional airline an entirely different job than that of a commuter.

If living in base is not an option, then it does matter. All regionals are not alike, all travel benefits are not alike. Choose Endeavor first, followed by the three AA WO's (if you are young enough to anticipate going to AA, then you may want to put Endeavor after the others since all three AA WO offer no interview direct flow to AA). After that I'd probably do SkyWest, Republic and then ExpressJet.

The Travel benefits - if you're going to be a commuter - are important also. If you are at Endeavor or any of the AA WO's you come ahead of the offline non-revs and jumpseaters. At the AA WO's your travel benefits not only include your immediate family, but also include up to 13 others of our choice. Traveling non-rev is a pain, more so when trying to bring family along, and even worse when you are an offline non-rev. If you are going to commute, getting the best possible travel benefits can make life as a commuter easier..... I've lost count of how many times - back in the day - myself and other regional pilots got on our mainline flights home, while the TSA, Mesa, Republic, SkyWest guys didn't. You see that happen for enough years and it eventually does sink in that regardless of what a recruiter proclaims their great travel benefits to be; they are NOT all the same.
When I left the regionals being home based was one of the key factors in selecting where I went to complete my career. QOL is just immeasurably better when based at your home.


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