Anybody in the Mesa Airlines May 7 training class???
05-01-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowtimer77
I was in an fbo in the phoenix area yesterday when I started talking to a a dude in his mid-thirties who i immediataly could tell wasnt too bright. He starts telling me how he is going to be an airline pilot. He tells me that after he gets his private he is going to get his "CRJ License" and apply to mesa. I told him, "Ya know, Mesa doesnt have the best reputation. They dont treat their workers well and for a first year FO they only make $16-$18K a year. Then he says to me, "Yeah, Ive heard some stuff about Mesa but really, thats pretty good pay for a first year FO" I just kinda smiled but I wanted to say, "Well, then what the hell would you consider BAD pay??!!!! $12k a year, $10k a year?
Hey, Yzerman,..... maybe he's talkin about your little buddy- Jesus Juice John
05-01-2007, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by newgrad411
Alright guys give it a rest.
Lewis-
I have been at Mesa since the beginning of this year. It's not anything like the guys on here say it is. That's because a vast majority of them work elsewhere and speculate about Mesa having never set a foot on the premises.
Note: I said vast majority, so I don't want every chotch on here who has worked at mesa to respond to this. You've been quiet this long, so keep it up.
Pretty sure you didn't get ORD yet, since you haven't talked to the standing bid girls. That should happen around the end of week 2. Wouldn't count on the jet either. The class that started about 3 weeks ago all went to the Beech 1900.
If you like to fly, this is a great place b/c you'll do plenty of it. The guys I fly with are great, and I enjoy myself. Pay isn't much, but if you're not used to having a lot of it to begin with, you won't really care.
Good luck. Keep a good attitude, and have fun with ground school. I loved it, and PHX is a fun place to be.
Lewis-
I have been at Mesa since the beginning of this year. It's not anything like the guys on here say it is. That's because a vast majority of them work elsewhere and speculate about Mesa having never set a foot on the premises.
Note: I said vast majority, so I don't want every chotch on here who has worked at mesa to respond to this. You've been quiet this long, so keep it up.
Pretty sure you didn't get ORD yet, since you haven't talked to the standing bid girls. That should happen around the end of week 2. Wouldn't count on the jet either. The class that started about 3 weeks ago all went to the Beech 1900.
If you like to fly, this is a great place b/c you'll do plenty of it. The guys I fly with are great, and I enjoy myself. Pay isn't much, but if you're not used to having a lot of it to begin with, you won't really care.
Good luck. Keep a good attitude, and have fun with ground school. I loved it, and PHX is a fun place to be.
However, There are those few ppl that like to be abused....Hence those ppl that like the bondage and domination types
05-01-2007, 08:34 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by newgrad411
Alright guys give it a rest.
Lewis-
I have been at Mesa since the beginning of this year. It's not anything like the guys on here say it is. That's because a vast majority of them work elsewhere and speculate about Mesa having never set a foot on the premises.
Note: I said vast majority, so I don't want every chotch on here who has worked at mesa to respond to this. You've been quiet this long, so keep it up.
Pretty sure you didn't get ORD yet, since you haven't talked to the standing bid girls. That should happen around the end of week 2. Wouldn't count on the jet either. The class that started about 3 weeks ago all went to the Beech 1900.
If you like to fly, this is a great place b/c you'll do plenty of it. The guys I fly with are great, and I enjoy myself. Pay isn't much, but if you're not used to having a lot of it to begin with, you won't really care.
Good luck. Keep a good attitude, and have fun with ground school. I loved it, and PHX is a fun place to be.
Lewis-
I have been at Mesa since the beginning of this year. It's not anything like the guys on here say it is. That's because a vast majority of them work elsewhere and speculate about Mesa having never set a foot on the premises.
Note: I said vast majority, so I don't want every chotch on here who has worked at mesa to respond to this. You've been quiet this long, so keep it up.
Pretty sure you didn't get ORD yet, since you haven't talked to the standing bid girls. That should happen around the end of week 2. Wouldn't count on the jet either. The class that started about 3 weeks ago all went to the Beech 1900.
If you like to fly, this is a great place b/c you'll do plenty of it. The guys I fly with are great, and I enjoy myself. Pay isn't much, but if you're not used to having a lot of it to begin with, you won't really care.
Good luck. Keep a good attitude, and have fun with ground school. I loved it, and PHX is a fun place to be.
I guarantee you this tool bag came from Farmington...didn't you "newgrad"? You hang on to J.O.'s every word, don't you? I suppose with 230hrs and 20hrs in a FTD Mesa was the only place that would hire you.
Had three guys in my initial class that came from MESA, and all of them said the same thing about lack of days off (8 a month if you're on reserve), crew scheduling abuses, MEL's (lots and lots of them as J.O. doesn't believe in mx), poor pay, TDY....you get the picture. That's just three of the many I've talked to about how bad things are at MESA.
05-01-2007, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanchez
I guarantee you this tool bag came from Farmington...didn't you "newgrad"? You hang on to J.O.'s every word, don't you? I suppose with 230hrs and 20hrs in a FTD Mesa was the only place that would hire you.
Had three guys in my initial class that came from MESA, and all of them said the same thing about lack of days off (8 a month if you're on reserve), crew scheduling abuses, MEL's (lots and lots of them as J.O. doesn't believe in mx), poor pay, TDY....you get the picture. That's just three of the many I've talked to about how bad things are at MESA.
Had three guys in my initial class that came from MESA, and all of them said the same thing about lack of days off (8 a month if you're on reserve), crew scheduling abuses, MEL's (lots and lots of them as J.O. doesn't believe in mx), poor pay, TDY....you get the picture. That's just three of the many I've talked to about how bad things are at MESA.
He knows what it's all about...he's been flying the line for a month or so.
Maybe they don't get abused as much in the Dash, doubtful though. When the new hire shine fades from his polyester pants after sitting RR 20 days per bid, he'll figure it out.
05-01-2007, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanchez
I guarantee you this tool bag came from Farmington...didn't you "newgrad"? You hang on to J.O.'s every word, don't you? I suppose with 230hrs and 20hrs in a FTD Mesa was the only place that would hire you.
Had three guys in my initial class that came from MESA, and all of them said the same thing about lack of days off (8 a month if you're on reserve), crew scheduling abuses, MEL's (lots and lots of them as J.O. doesn't believe in mx), poor pay, TDY....you get the picture. That's just three of the many I've talked to about how bad things are at MESA.
Had three guys in my initial class that came from MESA, and all of them said the same thing about lack of days off (8 a month if you're on reserve), crew scheduling abuses, MEL's (lots and lots of them as J.O. doesn't believe in mx), poor pay, TDY....you get the picture. That's just three of the many I've talked to about how bad things are at MESA.
We've spoken before on this site, and even agreed to beers together to discuss the "greatness" of this company. I know you've been around longer and I know what your talking about. Never said it was perfect, just trying to be a little positive for the new hire.
Sanchez-
Don't appreciate the tool bag comment, nor the assumption of where I come from. As much as you wish I was, I am not a farmington grad. I was hired after I graduated in December from a big 12 university (not trying to big time anyone with that comment, just informing sanchez that he was wrong). Had far more time that the 200ish and 20 FTD.
My sim partner was, however, and I think he wouldn't appreciate your condecending tone.
I don't hang on to J.O's every word, and both airplanes I flew yesterday were free of MEL's. Since Apr 1st I have had 15 days off and haven't been junior assigned once since I have been an employee.
Slice-
I have been around for since the beginning of the new year. I don't know everything, but thanks for tossing some words into my mouth. Since were playing that game, I know its better where you are, I know your better than me and I know you know everything. Feel better now? Good.
Lewis-
Sanchez is just another example of a person who's got "three guys in his initial class" who told him everything about Mesa. It was all the truth, as you can see.
It's not a perfect job, but a good attitude seems to make things a little better.
Good luck to you.
Last edited by newgrad411; 05-01-2007 at 09:39 PM.
05-01-2007, 09:48 PM
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Sanchez-
Don't appreciate the tool bag comment, nor the assumption of where I come from. As much as you wish I was, I am not a farmington grad. I was hired after I graduated in December from a big 12 university (not trying to big time anyone with that comment, just informing sanchez that he was wrong). Had far more time that the 200ish and 20 FTD.
My sim partner was, however, and I think he wouldn't appreciate your condecending tone.
I don't hang on to J.O's every word, and both airplanes I flew yesterday were free of MEL's. Since Apr 1st I have had 15 days off and haven't been junior assigned once since I have been an employee.
Don't appreciate the tool bag comment, nor the assumption of where I come from. As much as you wish I was, I am not a farmington grad. I was hired after I graduated in December from a big 12 university (not trying to big time anyone with that comment, just informing sanchez that he was wrong). Had far more time that the 200ish and 20 FTD.
My sim partner was, however, and I think he wouldn't appreciate your condecending tone.
I don't hang on to J.O's every word, and both airplanes I flew yesterday were free of MEL's. Since Apr 1st I have had 15 days off and haven't been junior assigned once since I have been an employee.
www.dot.gov
and last but not least
www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp
Apparently the other pilots at MESA and the feds disagree with you. A little reseach will help the lad decide for himself. Check out the posts from some of the guys that have been there over 2 years as oppose to 3 months, or how about the cancellation rates, on time stats, or incident/accident reports.
Oh, and wasn't it MESA that was featured in multiple network news stories about their pilots constantly sleeping in the aircraft because the company wouldn't provide hotel rooms? J.O.'s answer: all crews will share one hotel room.
Is this really who you want to work for?
05-02-2007, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Sanchez
www.mesahub.com
www.dot.gov
and last but not least
www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp
Apparently the other pilots at MESA and the feds disagree with you. A little reseach will help the lad decide for himself. Check out the posts from some of the guys that have been there over 2 years as oppose to 3 months, or how about the cancellation rates, on time stats, or incident/accident reports.
Oh, and wasn't it MESA that was featured in multiple network news stories about their pilots constantly sleeping in the aircraft because the company wouldn't provide hotel rooms? J.O.'s answer: all crews will share one hotel room.
Is this really who you want to work for?
www.dot.gov
and last but not least
www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp
Apparently the other pilots at MESA and the feds disagree with you. A little reseach will help the lad decide for himself. Check out the posts from some of the guys that have been there over 2 years as oppose to 3 months, or how about the cancellation rates, on time stats, or incident/accident reports.
Oh, and wasn't it MESA that was featured in multiple network news stories about their pilots constantly sleeping in the aircraft because the company wouldn't provide hotel rooms? J.O.'s answer: all crews will share one hotel room.
Is this really who you want to work for?
What exactly are you trying to argue with me about?
Crews do not share one hotel room. Even in training, I had my own room.
You don't work here, and you don't know what your talking about.
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