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rickair7777 06-26-2019 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by DocMcFly (Post 2843608)
Hi all, moving to base is not an option for me but I’m only 1.5 hour flight from an outstation with multiple daily flights to DFW. I know about crash pads but how do you guys/gals who commute to get around while on reserve? When I first started looking at regional life a place like LGA seemed easier due to the availability of mass transit but what about places where mass transit isn’t available like DFW? Anyway, looking forward to your advice! Taxi? Uber? Leave a cheap car there? Thanks in advance!

If no mass transit, then you have to balance ease/cost of getting to work vs. crash pad cost vs. crash pad local (ie stuff to do while you're hanging out).

Be aware that near some major airports, uber drivers will not want to take you to the airport... they get like $4.87 for a 1.2 mile trip but the traffic into the terminal costs too much gas and time.

Personally I ALWAYS stashed a car at any base where I commuted, most especially for reserve. That gives you much better flexibility as to where you stay and improves reserve QOL ( and will also make you popular). As a lineholder I would commute in very early for late shows and then I could go do something local (skiing, biking, hiking in my case). Reduced commuting stress because I had plenty of backup flights without being stuck with 6-8 hours post-commute airport appreciation.

DarkSideMoon 06-26-2019 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2843609)
If no mass transit, then you have to balance ease/cost of getting to work vs. crash pad cost vs. crash pad local (ie stuff to do while you're hanging out).

Be aware that near some major airports, uber drivers will not want to take you to the airport... they get like $4.87 for a 1.2 mile trip but the traffic into the terminal costs too much gas and time.

I used to uber from Atlantic at MDW to the terminal at MDW... They might not be happy about it but I never had a problem getting a ride.

ShyGuy 06-26-2019 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by stang (Post 2827612)
How does one determine the most commuter friendly regional? I can't move to a domicile but DEN and PHX would be my easiest commutes. So out of TSA, Skywest and Compass - who has the most commuter friendly schedule and rules? I am not considering Mesa even though they are PHX. I know TSA I could hold DEN pretty darn quick but its still a commute (1-2 flights daily or a 4 hr drive).

If you’re looking at a regional, safe to assume you’re entering the industry? And just starting off the bat you are already stuck where you are and cannot move? Yikes. How are you that inflexible before even really starting a 121 career?



Originally Posted by sflpilot (Post 2829379)
This isn’t going to be popular but I would consider doing something else. There is no guarantee of mainline and the thought of being at a regional and commuting until age 65 is not pleasant.

Yup.

rickair7777 06-26-2019 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2843613)
I used to uber from Atlantic at MDW to the terminal at MDW... They might not be happy about it but I never had a problem getting a ride.

They are limited as to how many trips they can refuse. But lately they will call you BEFORE they accept the trip to verify that you're not going to the airport. I guess you could lie, might be awkward though.

Maybe MDW isn't as congested as some big hubs. My experience is with west coast hubs.

DarkSideMoon 06-26-2019 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2843618)
They are limited as to how many trips they can refuse. But lately they will call you BEFORE they accept the trip to verify that you're not going to the airport. I guess you could lie, might be awkward though.

Maybe MDW isn't as congested as some big hubs. My experience is with west coast hubs.

Definitely could be a regional thing. East coast and west coast Ubers seem a lot more like cabs, with all the nastiness that comes with cabs. I’ve been pretty lucky in Chicago.

sflpilot 06-26-2019 11:12 AM

Most of the Uber drivers have become very slick with their techniques to avoid unpopular trips. Also as others have said, most people give the reason for commuting is because of their family. However if you commute you won’t see your family very much.

Blackhawk 06-26-2019 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by DocMcFly (Post 2843608)
Hi all, moving to base is not an option for me but I’m only 1.5 hour flight from an outstation with multiple daily flights to DFW. I know about crash pads but how do you guys/gals who commute to get around while on reserve? When I first started looking at regional life a place like LGA seemed easier due to the availability of mass transit but what about places where mass transit isn’t available like DFW? Anyway, looking forward to your advice! Taxi? Uber? Leave a cheap car there? Thanks in advance!

Depends on the base and your seniority.
At one point commuting to ATL I had a really cheap “airport car” and you see plenty of them in the parking lots. I had a free crash pad in my cousins basement and it gave me flexibility.
Commuting to DTW I did without a car. The few times I needed to stay there I got a cheap hotel room. $54 out the door including breakfast.
DFW I only commuted to for a few months. Hotel rooms 1-3 times per month were cheaper than crash pads.
Did ORD for two months. Didn’t have to worry about places to stay as it never came up.

DocMcFly 06-26-2019 05:42 PM

Thanks for the replies and thoughtful responses!

stang 06-30-2019 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2843617)
If you’re looking at a regional, safe to assume you’re entering the industry? And just starting off the bat you are already stuck where you are and cannot move? Yikes. How are you that inflexible before even really starting a 121 career?

Actually returning - I was a product of the late 90's and choose to not go into aviation for numerous reasons. Kept invovled, owned a plane etc.. Making a run at it now after testing the waters in pt135 world. We own a business - hence cant move but putting in the sacrifices. Regional is the best option for ATP and turbine. Commute aside not going to uproot everything for regional life and I have a number of good options to make it doable but will include a drive to various airports if needed.

Flyboy68 07-01-2019 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by stang (Post 2827612)
I am not considering Mesa even though they are PHX.

So, you’re too good to work for Mesa?

Looks like the APC gossip board has done a number on you. Good luck upgrading in a couple of years.:rolleyes:


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