Cut the guy some slack guys...never said he'd be a GoJet ***** or a scab, just that actually getting to fly is what is most important to him right now. After he gets extended or JM'd a few times and misses some commutes home that'll change...

And if you flew 50 hours and got paid for 93 you either 1. flew over vacation, 2. had a bunch of LC days, or 3. are a reserve and picked up opentime below 12 days off.

Sorry for the implication that I didn't care at all about money. I do, and trust me: I want to work for a good regional with good pay, good QOL, good working conditions, etc. That's why I refuse to even consider Mesa and all the other sh!tty operations out there.

I guess what I was trying to say is I'd like to work somewhere that I can build time quickly, but also be working in a good environment, with a good pilot group, a fair contract, etc. I'm certainly taking everything into consideration.

Sorry guys...should have re-read before i pressed the submit button.

Thanks for not jumping to any conclusion Boiler. I appreciate it.

So I've decided it would be best to go to ATL job fair and see what AWAC has to offer as a company and see what they have to say about my resume. I am hoping for an interview. Any recommendation on what to bring, besides wearing a suit, im bringing my logbook, medical, pilot cert., passport and also was thnking about letters of reccomendation jsut in case...any thoughts??? Thanks in advance!

RSV+RGS on RSV days=2 days OWP+ a 3 day open time trip=93 hrs/11 days off. I think it might be 97, but I'm not sure how the "OWP" works? I guess we'll see on the 15th.

Its cool man... I just read your post after something happened that ticked me off--I was at an FBO taking a C-208 from RDU to Pine Island, NC (private strip--outer banks) for my old employer and this guy walks up to me at RDU and says he'd do anything for turbine time. He said "I don't even care about money...I just want the turbine time...right now I'm cleaning a BE-58 and the guy is letting me fly it with him, I'd be happy to do the same thing with this C-208" Then I got home, read your post--its cool man, my apologies.

AWAC is a good place...there are a few out there. The key is to live in domicile or have a super easy commute (if such a commute exists?). Our domiciles are expensive and/or undesirable. At XJT you will fly a lot, at SKYW you will fly a lot, at AWAC---you will fly...just not as as others. Things are always changing though thats for sure. I've got a four day tomorrow, then a two day I picked up in open time, and a day off. So six straight days as long as I don't run into any 30/7 issues! Then I will probably go 7-10 days with no flying :)

Captchris 6 days In a row doesn't sound so bad. I'm a line holder at TSA and am blocked for 99:37 this month. I was wondering what you think about your ORF base. Quality of life and how much do they dead head being an out station. I live in Richmond so ORF would be an easy move for me. I hope I'm on bored with you all at AWAC soon. Fly safe!

Im actually going a little chater operation about 15 mins from my house. King Airs, lears, a challenger and a hawker. Home almost every night, and turbine PIC. Non of that was going to happen anytime soon at AWAC. I can only hope that mgmt pulls thier heads out of thier a$$es before it really hits the fan this summer. The pilot group at AWAC is by far the best group Ive ever worked with and it is depressing to see the negativity picking up again. I can only hope that you guys get what is owed to you. Best of luck!

Good luck in ATL. Letters of rec never hurt anyone, as long as they were good ones:D so bring those if ya got em. Other than that just show up and be you, and things should be fine. ;)

Thanks Korean1DR, have you had a lot of exp. with AWAC??? I have heard that they will seriously consider you if you show up and speak to them at these job fairs.

Yea... I've been w/ AWAC for about a year now... AWAC is definitely a more HR oriented interview. At least it was for me. No technical questions at all. I can't really promise that now though. Usually, they are just looking to make sure you are a person that can get along with a crew for 4 day trips and not cause problems... That's about the jest of it. Good luck.

Korean!DR thanks for the info! Thats what I have heard as well. Where are you based? Do you commute? I am living in BOS and plan on tryin to get PHL or DCA as it is a 1 leg commute. I know for reserve and stuff that I will need to prob live at my crash pad, overall how do you like it? is this your first regional? Sorry for all the questions, I am just very interested in them and want to gather as much info as possible.

BOS-DCA would be a piece of cake with the Airways and Delta Shuttles. I think a nice crashpad in Crystal City that is a 15 minute walk or one stop on the Metro away will run you $205-235 bucks/mo. Not cheap mind you, but not bad given the location...

Tahts great info thanks, I didnt think it would be too dificult, BiolerUP a re you flying for AWAC????

Yup...done my tour of duty in all three domiciles.

How is your QOL with AWAC? I know the pay is "good" comapared with others, you have done all 3 domiciles by choice or becuzase they moved you around?

I live in the DC Metro area, so my QOL is pretty good. I was based in ORF out of training for two months, went to PHL for commutability and to hold a line, and bid DCA last fall when my wife and I moved out this way. Unless I get a dream job back in the midwest and leave AWAC, they'll have to pry DCA from my cold, dead hands at this point. Good crews, great controllers, great scenery, schedules that mostly avoid PHL - all win/win!

Great thanks for the info!!!! Sounds like you really love it, I would be commuting from BOS (maybe not while on reserve) but I apprecaite your input!

Eh, I wouldn't quite go that far...;)

But there are a whole lot worse places I could be right now.

right I know what you are saying, what would you say is the biggest negative there now? It seems to me that upgrade is what everyone keeps saying, do you agreee??

Upgrade time is not the biggest negative...the junior upgrade right now is just over three years. That is not at all out of line with the rest of the regional industry, despite what folks are currently seeing right now at RAH and Skywest.

In my opinion the biggest negative is lack of a long-term strategy for growth. With the 146 AWAC had a niche; flying safely in and out of Aspen and other mountain towns, up to 100 folks at a time, for decades. Now we're just another 50 seat RJ operator for a mainline partner that has far too many 50 seat RJs and who can't wait to get rid of our contract in 8 years. Right now, we have nothing to define our operation except our history and only fly to one city in the state that shares our name.

Upper management is set to unveil their new long-term strategic plan in the coming weeks...I sure hope there's some optimistic stuff in there.

WEll that should be interesting to see what their "long term " plan is , if there is such a thing in the airline industry :) I will be going to ATL to meet with them at the Career Fair/Pre-screening and see what they have to say. I did submit my resume last week and havent gotten a call, howeve rI ehar it does take some time, and everyone i ve talked to reccomends going to the Fair and hand delivering my resume as well as putting a name with a face!

Not really upgrade time, but more stagnation. The top 1/4 to 1/3 of the pilot group has NO INTENTION of leaving and ending their career at AWAC. That means not as many upgrades.

Upgrade time is currently around 3 1/2 years, HOWEVER it will most likely INCREASE. It only got to 3 because of the HUGE attrition that happened in 2005 - almost 25% of the entire pilot group left. Think about that for a second - 1/4 of the pilot group leaves and upgrades "dropped" to 3 years...with attrition of 8 captains per month (what it's been averaging this year) you're looking at an educated guess of 50 months to upgrade if hired on currently - and that's if they upgrade people when captains leave. So far this year alone about 30 captains have left and there have been ZERO upgrades in their place.

AWAC is a good company but zero growth in the current environment doesn't bode well. If you can't get on at skywest, pinnacle, or republic (three companies that I feel are well positioned for future growth) I wouldn't blink an eye at coming here - until those companies call you ;).

Fosters, thanks a lot for the info, I really want to come there to AWAC, we will see what goes down in ATL!

Is anyone on here planning on attending the Job Fair/Seminar in ATL on May 19th???

Air Inc is around $175 to get in right? Why would you need to spend the money if you can line up an interview without going

They hire a considerable amount of folks, probably 50%, below the posted mins, with a walk-in. However, they certainly prefer 750/50, because at this place, upgrades are one year, if not less.

I'm going. I don't want to spend the money, but it seems the best way.

cbire880...who do you work for currently??? Maybe I will see you in ATL, I think it will be beneficial. What companies are you interested in??

I currently have a "real job" flying a desk. I used to fly a King Air 200 under part 135 until the company went under about 2.5 years ago. I've been instructing on the side since then. We'll see if I'm hosed without a current fulltime flying job and a bunch of hours in the last 6 monhts.

Im at a desk part time too, but when ia m not i have been flying the King AIr B100 and C-402 here in New England and have been with the company about a year. Its great experience. Hope to see you in ATL. Im sure if you have the flight time a current job flying isnt a huge issue. Jsut stay current. What airlines are you looking into?