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Old 07-31-2019, 09:33 AM
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Hi all,

Been looking at commutes to LGA, EWR, BOS and PHL from DFW. That's if I even go to this airline. Trips won't be same day commutable it seems and I'm ok with that. Anyone else do this commute? I got Spirit, UA, AA, DL and SWA out of the metroplex to some of these bases. Would like to know if some of these legs are easy or hard to commute to. I see where LGA has 22-24 departures out of the metroplex during the weekdays. Pretty good imo.

Eventually I'd like to hold IAH but I heard the DFW-IAH commute can be a monster.

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FWIW this is secondhand information from people who make that commute:

I have heard it is very difficult with many flights being oversold/ full. Depending on which airlines and their commuter policies it could cause quite a headache. Not sure if youre looking at regionals or something else, but all of the direct flights are mainline so dont count on a jumpseat either.

As far as coming in the day before- personally- this is the absolute worst part of the job. Unless you are single with no kids and no wife/ girlfriend at home, I would advise *firmly* against a commute that requires it.

Even if you are single it will get old as you forego one more night at home to sleep in a crash pad.

Not sure what your background is but airline life is different from many other jobs in that your time at home is 100% yours, but your time away is 100% gone. Im sure youre already in aviation so you are probably familiar with this but I came from a 135 operator that had fewer days off per month but more nights at home. I started looking into airlines because I was thinking "wow, 12 days off, no on call" etc. Its not quite as easy when you have to fit all of your life into your 12 days off- not only family obligations and general chores, but also a little relaxation time to protect your sanity.

Sorry for the rant, to answer your question, from my friends and acquaintances that make that commute, it can be tough, especially when winter weather shuts down new York.

Some commutes are easier than others- but if long term your goal is IAH then i would look at airlines with IAH bases and plan on moving to the northeast for the few years it will take to get enough seniority to hold IAH.
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Old 07-31-2019, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingDawgg View Post
Hi all,

Been looking at commutes to LGA, EWR, BOS and PHL from DFW. That's if I even go to this airline. Trips won't be same day commutable it seems and I'm ok with that. Anyone else do this commute? I got Spirit, UA, AA, DL and SWA out of the metroplex to some of these bases. Would like to know if some of these legs are easy or hard to commute to. I see where LGA has 22-24 departures out of the metroplex during the weekdays. Pretty good imo.

Eventually I'd like to hold IAH but I heard the DFW-IAH commute can be a monster.

Thanks
Strongly suggest avoiding anything hub to hub for the same airline, so avoid PHL. Almost entirely served by AA, connecting one of their senior bases to what is one of their most junior bases. Ditto on BOS unless DL eventually starts flying the route providing more options. I’d say EWR is your best bet as it is served by tons of both UA and AA flights, and I guarantee you not a single mainline AA commuter... they’d drive or fly to JFK/LGA. Better crashpad situation in EWR than LGA as well.
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This is the boat I’m in. I live near Dallas and am strongly considering taking a DEC at C5....... dfw to ewr and back again.

I reckon in a scale of 1 to 10, my stupidity level is 11
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH View Post
This is the boat I’m in. I live near Dallas and am strongly considering taking a DEC at C5....... dfw to ewr and back again.

I reckon in a scale of 1 to 10, my stupidity level is 11
Why wouldn't you do DEC with Envoy, get a commuter clause, a fat signing bonus and eventually get back to DFW?
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Why wouldn't you do DEC with Envoy, get a commuter clause, a fat signing bonus and eventually get back to DFW?
Two years reserve in LGA before dfw. So they say. I have the CJO.

C5 has commuter clause too and typically a line after 3-4 months I’m told.
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH View Post
Two years reserve in LGA before dfw. So they say. I have the CJO.

C5 has commuter clause too and typically a line after 3-4 months I’m told.
I think that two year reserve number is insanely flawed/ outdated. I know people that got back to ORD or DFW in several months and were able to transition over to the 175.
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Originally Posted by hawk21 View Post
I think that two year reserve number is insanely flawed/ outdated. I know people that got back to ORD or DFW in several months and were able to transition over to the 175.
Can I pm you? Also, I think that bonus just died.
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Originally Posted by hawk21 View Post
Why wouldn't you do DEC with Envoy, get a commuter clause, a fat signing bonus and eventually get back to DFW?
DEC at Envoy is dead. Try following the DEC link at APC. Then, try entering the link in a web browser.

However, one could go to Envoy and upgrade right away if DEC without DEC benefits floats one's boat.
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver View Post
DEC at Envoy is dead. Try following the DEC link at APC. Then, try entering the link in a web browser.

However, one could go to Envoy and upgrade right away if DEC without DEC benefits floats one's boat.
They’re advertising 6 months which isn’t too bad.
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