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DrH361 08-28-2019 07:58 AM

Opinion as ORD as a base.
 
41 year old closing in on 1500 hours here. I am about to start applying to the regionals and am curious which regional would be the best pick to hold Chicago as a base soonest. 1) I know the seniority of bases for fo and capt is different for different regionals. 2) I know there are many different variables that will go into choosing a job other than bases. I’m just looking to explore this one variable currently. 3) I know that the seniority levels can change day to day with expansion, cuts, new bases, etc but I’m looking for an opinion if I had to pick the best option today. From what I read, commuting is horrible and cuts into life significantly and I’d like to avoid it as much as possible. And I’m not in a position to where I can move because of family. With that being said, I’m looking for the best opinion of what regional to choose if I could choose any that would allow me Chicago as a base soonest. Also, if anyone knows of a resource out there that does like a side by side list and updates of the answer I’m looking for that would be great.

Thanks!

DoSomePilotStuf 08-28-2019 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by DrH361 (Post 2878097)
41 year old closing in on 1500 hours here. I am about to start applying to the regionals and am curious which regional would be the best pick to hold Chicago as a base soonest. 1) I know the seniority of bases for fo and capt is different for different regionals. 2) I know there are many different variables that will go into choosing a job other than bases. I’m just looking to explore this one variable currently. 3) I know that the seniority levels can change day to day with expansion, cuts, new bases, etc but I’m looking for an opinion if I had to pick the best option today. From what I read, commuting is horrible and cuts into life significantly and I’d like to avoid it as much as possible. And I’m not in a position to where I can move because of family. With that being said, I’m looking for the best opinion of what regional to choose if I could choose any that would allow me Chicago as a base soonest. Also, if anyone knows of a resource out there that does like a side by side list and updates of the answer I’m looking for that would be great.

Thanks!

At XJT about 90% of new hires have gotten ORD in the last couple of months whether they wanted it or not.

saxman66 08-28-2019 08:05 AM

ORD is easy to get for just about any regional that has a base there so you should have no problem getting it. Envoy has the flow to AA, so if you can’t get on at any other mainline at least that is in your back pocket. No idea what the timeline is though.


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WiscoAviator 08-28-2019 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by DrH361 (Post 2878097)
41 year old closing in on 1500 hours here. I am about to start applying to the regionals and am curious which regional would be the best pick to hold Chicago as a base soonest. 1) I know the seniority of bases for fo and capt is different for different regionals. 2) I know there are many different variables that will go into choosing a job other than bases. I’m just looking to explore this one variable currently. 3) I know that the seniority levels can change day to day with expansion, cuts, new bases, etc but I’m looking for an opinion if I had to pick the best option today. From what I read, commuting is horrible and cuts into life significantly and I’d like to avoid it as much as possible. And I’m not in a position to where I can move because of family. With that being said, I’m looking for the best opinion of what regional to choose if I could choose any that would allow me Chicago as a base soonest. Also, if anyone knows of a resource out there that does like a side by side list and updates of the answer I’m looking for that would be great.

Thanks!

At AirWis, I held ORD reserve after one month on the line and an ORD line after 6 months. I think that timetable is extended a little but now but you should be able to get reserve there within a couple months.

fortyeight 08-28-2019 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by DrH361 (Post 2878097)
41 year old closing in on 1500 hours here. I am about to start applying to the regionals and am curious which regional would be the best pick to hold Chicago as a base soonest. 1) I know the seniority of bases for fo and capt is different for different regionals. 2) I know there are many different variables that will go into choosing a job other than bases. I’m just looking to explore this one variable currently. 3) I know that the seniority levels can change day to day with expansion, cuts, new bases, etc but I’m looking for an opinion if I had to pick the best option today. From what I read, commuting is horrible and cuts into life significantly and I’d like to avoid it as much as possible. And I’m not in a position to where I can move because of family. With that being said, I’m looking for the best opinion of what regional to choose if I could choose any that would allow me Chicago as a base soonest. Also, if anyone knows of a resource out there that does like a side by side list and updates of the answer I’m looking for that would be great.

Thanks!

Literally any regional with a crew base there EXCEPT Republic is a solid option. YX has been shrinking ORD for 5 years and seem to only care about the northeast. If ORD is your goal stay as far away from Republic as possible.

If I could do it all over again I’d chose Skywest. ORD is one of, if not the biggest crew base for OO. Tons of options other than ORD if you ever chose to leave Chicago. Pay and QOL on par with almost everyone else.

Living in base is 100% the highest deciding factor in QOL. Skywest can give you Chicago and job security over every other regional that operates in ORD.

SkychickenFO 08-28-2019 08:21 PM

I got ORD before finishing training at OO. YMMV but it shouldn't be long.

ICUROOK 08-29-2019 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by saxman66 (Post 2878103)
ORD is easy to get for just about any regional that has a base there so you should have no problem getting it. Envoy has the flow to AA, so if you can’t get on at any other mainline at least that is in your back pocket. No idea what the timeline is though.


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Where are you going to keep your wallet with flow in your back pocket? ohh wait I forgot, you won't need a wallet because you will be broke working for Envoy.

hawk21 08-29-2019 11:56 AM

OO or Envoy. No brainer. Don’t go to Republic.

stabapch 08-29-2019 02:26 PM

Yeah go OO. Especially if you don’t mind flying 5-6 legs a day in a 200, junior manning on your “days off”, or sitting hot reserve. Not to mention the lack of pay compared with other options, no rigs and no union. But at least you’ll get ORD and a name tag.

DoSomePilotStuf 08-29-2019 02:42 PM

What’s the knock on ExpressJet currently? $22K bonus, $40 an hour, $10,000 per year “salary” (EQO). 75 hr minimum. Easy to get 85 after very short reserve. Upgrade time has come down dramatically and will continue. We only have around 200 CA eligible FOs left with around 10 CAs leaving for new opportunities every week. Of the 200 over half have already bypassed upgrade.

And brand new 175s

ninerdriver 08-29-2019 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2878937)
What’s the knock on ExpressJet currently? $22K bonus, $40 an hour, $10,000 per year “salary” (EQO). 75 hr minimum. Easy to get 85 after very short reserve. Upgrade time has come down dramatically and will continue. We only have around 200 CA eligible FOs left with around 10 CAs leaving for new opportunities every week. Of the 200 over half have already bypassed upgrade.

And brand new 175s

Dude, stop already.

Paid2fly 08-29-2019 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2879018)
Dude, stop already.





I'm guessing he's either a recruiter, management, or a former used car salesman...


:eek:


;)

Simpsons 08-29-2019 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2878922)
Yeah go OO. Especially if you don’t mind flying 5-6 legs a day in a 200, junior manning on your “days off”, or sitting hot reserve. Not to mention the lack of pay compared with other options, no rigs and no union. But at least you’ll get ORD and a name tag.

SkyWest can’t junior man you and not many of the pairings have 5-6 legs. I think I’ve had maybe 2 6 leg days in almost 4 years.

Cefiro 08-29-2019 06:58 PM

ORD is OO’s biggest base (if you combine the fleets). Also, junior on the CA side on the CRJ.

JohnnyBekkestad 09-07-2019 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2878922)
Yeah go OO. Especially if you don’t mind flying 5-6 legs a day in a 200, junior manning on your “days off”, or sitting hot reserve. Not to mention the lack of pay compared with other options, no rigs and no union. But at least you’ll get ORD and a name tag.

No sure what you are talking about, but this sounds like OO in ATL...
I've been in ORD at OO and i fly 2-3 legs a day on AA 700, regularly doing 23h or more 4 day trips. I seldom do any trips under 20 hours.

Paid2fly 09-07-2019 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad (Post 2883141)
No sure what you are talking about, but this sounds like OO in ATL...
I've been in ORD at OO and i fly 2-3 legs a day on AA 700, regularly doing 23h or more 4 day trips. I seldom do any trips under 20 hours.




Must be nice... All my 4 day trips are on the 200, the highest credit pairing is only 21h(the rest are all lower credit), and almost all are 4 leg days.

P.S. Prefer/bid locals and got (3) 4 days, a 3 day, and a 2 day.

EFBprobs 09-09-2019 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2878922)
Yeah go OO. Especially if you don’t mind flying 5-6 legs a day in a 200, junior manning on your “days off”, or sitting hot reserve. Not to mention the lack of pay compared with other options, no rigs and no union. But at least you’ll get ORD and a name tag.

Ive been OO ORD CRJ for 3 yrs never been junior manned and don't know what hot reserve is. We have a 1:2 duty rig, and pay is comparable to everywhere else.

Cefiro 09-15-2019 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2878922)
Yeah go OO. Especially if you don’t mind flying 5-6 legs a day in a 200, junior manning on your “days off”, or sitting hot reserve. Not to mention the lack of pay compared with other options, no rigs and no union. But at least you’ll get ORD and a name tag.

Apparently you don’t know much about OO. Last time I checked, they don’t have junior manning, don’t do 6 legs a day (May rarely do 5), and they do have trip rigs.

dera 09-15-2019 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2878922)
Yeah go OO. Especially if you don’t mind flying 5-6 legs a day in a 200, junior manning on your “days off”, or sitting hot reserve. Not to mention the lack of pay compared with other options, no rigs and no union. But at least you’ll get ORD and a name tag.

So how does this "no junior manning" work at Republic. Let's say it's day 4 and plane breaks down at the outstation on your last turn. No other flights out. How do they avoid junior manning you to your day off?

Rahlifer 09-18-2019 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2887999)
So how does this "no junior manning" work at Republic. Let's say it's day 4 and plane breaks down at the outstation on your last turn. No other flights out. How do they avoid junior manning you to your day off?

You obviously get stuck working into a day off, but you get paid 4:12 min day. You’d either be deadheaded back to base that day or most guys would just jumpseat home on the first flight out. The only caveat is that we do have some clause somewhere in our contract about not “abandoning” an airplane. I’ve only heard of it being used to force crew members to stick around and repo the airplane on a very few occasions.


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