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DASH8AV8R 05-08-2007 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 162339)
Used to . . quit flying them as of today.

Enjoy you rental car!!
Being a CA at PDT i have flown with a few of these (low timers) and 95% of them do a great job. And anyway the last time i checked the CA decides which legs the FO flys. If you can't fly you become the gear monkey.
And just another note PDT has a very very senior pilot group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

freezingflyboy 05-08-2007 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Flight1339 (Post 162378)
Required times will ebb and flow. People now think they're too low, but they'll start to rise again, eventually to the point where some may say they're too high. I think the quality of a low time pilot is highly dependent on how they were trained. I would trust a 300 hour ERAU or, dare I say it, UND pilot over someone from Joe Shmoe's FBO.

I wouldn't trust a 300 hour ERAU guy to sit the right way on a toilet seat! GO SIOUX!!!:D

Seriously though, I had more than 300 hours when i graduated. I sure hope these morons aren't so blinded by their desire to fly something that burns jet A and has lots of people in the back that they are skipping out of school before finishing a degree. That would definitely be one step forward and two steps waaaay back.

FlyingGuide 05-08-2007 04:20 PM

I hope people don't fall into that trap. Get a Degree. PDT will wait.

Ftrooppilot 05-08-2007 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 162391)
pps i still don't think ellen works for the airlines.

Agree. From a previous post I made.

Ellen is: (my best guess)

CMEL Pilot who does not fly for an airline.
Has extensive research capabilities at her disposal - college students ?
- almost all her threads start with a publication quote.
Has a MBA or above and concentrates on the airline industry.
- look at the variety of subjects she covers
Works as a college professor or labor law attorney.
- well spoken
- has classes or court on M,T, W Few posts on those days.
Is in her mid 30s. (maturity sluffs off insults)
- probably good looking (got self confidence)
Husband is a regional pilot (Skywest ???)
- when he is gone she stays up all night and makes 20+ posts
Is a hell of a lot smarter then many of us.

I may not agree with her but she makes interesting arguments. :)

Flight1339 05-08-2007 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 162411)
I wouldn't trust a 300 hour ERAU guy to sit the right way on a toilet seat! GO SIOUX!!!:D

Seriously though, I had more than 300 hours when i graduated. I sure hope these morons aren't so blinded by their desire to fly something that burns jet A and has lots of people in the back that they are skipping out of school before finishing a degree. That would definitely be one step forward and two steps waaaay back.

You're obviously talking about the Daytona pukes. I wouldn't trust them to drive a car, much less fly a Dash 8.

On another note, I'm wondering where the topic of not finishing school came from. I highly doubt that the lower times of 300/50 apply if you haven't graduated. And I know some pilots think ERAU/UND/Purdue pilots are stupid for getting an aviation degree. At least in my case, I took courses not centered around being a pilot just in case I get furloughed or, less likely, lose my medical.

CRJ1000 05-08-2007 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Flight1339 (Post 161704)
I am one of 13 pilots to get hired by PDT from ERAU prescott. I don't quite have the 300 and was told to wait until I had 300. The same goes with a few other guys. We don't get class dates until we have 300 hours. Can't wait to get my time and start training.

I hope you are thinking past training. Make sure every hour you spend in the air is getting you ready for Part 121...or you may end up washing out. Good Luck.

Flight1339 05-08-2007 08:00 PM

Oh I am fully aware that training will be more difficult for me than it would be for someone with more hours. If I wasn't, this board would certainly let me know. Thats why I like going to a structured flight school like ERAU. Everything is done like the airlines, from the flying to the CRM training to practicing everything we learned in an A320 multicrew environment. I know, its an Airbus, but its better than nothing. And no, I'm not the typical Riddle puke that thinks I'm God's gift to the cockpit just for going there. I hate those people. They've helped turn a highly respected school into something to be despised.

TXTECHKA 05-09-2007 03:41 AM

Flight1339I think the quality of a low time pilot is highly dependent on how they were trained.

I would trust a 300 hour ERAU or, dare I say it, UND pilot over someone from Joe Shmoe's FBO

How come you think an riddle or und pilot would have better training than someone from an FBO school? Have you been to both? I never attended one of those schools (went to a regular college) I can't say anything about their training programs. However, at the flight school I taught at while I went to college, we've had a couple of these guys work there and I don't think anybody was impressed by them. One of them even ran one of our cherokees off the runway and just about totaled it. I guess he couldn't divide his attention between worrying about the bill collectors calling nonstop for his student loan payments and the student he was with. Anyway, if I had a choice I would take the FBO guy any day. But that's just me.

bobloblaw 05-09-2007 04:09 AM

I jumpseat on PDT twice a week from BWI to LGA. Every crew who has flown me too work has been outstanding. Their professionalism and dedication to safety is unquestionable. I don't have a single reservation about jumpseating on PDT. I always thank them after the flight, and I am thanking them here now.

BoilerUP 05-09-2007 04:27 AM

Ellen once tried to claim that the CRJ had poor brakes...that told me "she" doesn't know anything airplane or airline-specific because if there is ANYTHING the CRJ does well, its stop on the runway.

"Her" subsequent comments have led me to believe she also doesn't know anything about the regional airline industry.


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