View Poll Results: Which Airline Should I choose based following

Endeavor

24.75%

Republic

31.68%

Skywest

36.63%

Envoy

12.87%

Air Wisconsin

3.96%

Trans States

10.89%

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Choosing between Skywest, Republic, Endeavor

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11-19-2019, 10:54 AM

#11

GoJuice

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Not sure how you feel about driving for a commute but RPA has bases in IND and KC. Both are about 3 1/2- 4 hour drives from STL.

11-20-2019, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jpilot05

Hello All,
For background information I'm currently an instructor and looking at the Regionals. due to family situation I'm pretty positive I'm going to be moving to STL ( St.louis MO). for at least a year or two. Long term I'd like to be based out in the north west U.S. area after though. Obviously none of the airlines I mentioned are based out of STL so I'll have to commute. I've got a fair amount of debt from flight school to pay off so.

So Im looking for advice on which airline to choose. things i am prioritizing are: 1. decent QOL and pay, I find work rules to be important and I've found that I like the contract rules of EDV and RAH. 2. Bases. My end goal is being based out west with the possible movement to a major airline where I can be based out west. 3. Pay. I wasn't kidding about those loans and even a decreased pay period for training is something Im concerned against. 4. Commuting Policy. I Just don't want to get stuck on short call reserve having to commute.

Your advice is appreciated.

The largest QOL factor is if you live in base. The rest doesn’t matter. If you want to go back to the PNW I wouldn’t even consider Republic or Endeavor, they can’t get west of the Mississippi.

11-20-2019, 06:03 AM

#13

KCaviator

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Originally Posted by fortyeight

The largest QOL factor is if you live in base. The rest doesn’t matter. If you want to go back to the PNW I wouldn’t even consider Republic or Endeavor, they can’t get west of the Mississippi.

I wasn’t a geography major, but I’m pretty sure YX has two bases west of the Mississippi.

11-20-2019, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KCaviator

I wasn’t a geography major, but I’m pretty sure YX has two bases west of the Mississippi.

Pretty sure it was meant as a facetious remark. Republic is a good, stable company to work for, but they’ll never have any real presence in the pacific north west. The QOL of not having a cross country commute is not something that should be flippantly overlooked.

11-20-2019, 10:34 AM

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fortyeight

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Originally Posted by Rahlifer

At least this guy gets it.

11-21-2019, 05:09 AM

#16

Itsajob

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Originally Posted by Jpilot05

Thanks for the response. The goal is not to stay at the regionals so I wouldn't mind not living in the northwest for a few more years.

If your goal isn’t staying at the regionals, then focus on the end goal that you have in mind. If you want to stand a chance at Delta or United, make sure that you have a 4 year degree and go where you can fly hard, upgrade quickly, and do everything possible to build a high quality application in the shortest amount of time. If AA is the end goal, try to get on with one of their flow partners and maintain a clean work record. You will be better served in the long run if you attack your time building years and wait until you are where you want to spend the rest of your career before QOL becomes your main focus.

11-22-2019, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ninerdriver

That being said, EDV operates pretty much everything on Delta between LGA and STL, so there's always a jumpseat there for you.

This isn't as true anymore. For around 5 or 6 months this year April-ish thru summer Delta LGA-STL was all Republic. Goes back to all Republic again in April. Not sure the reason for the change back and forth seasonally.

11-23-2019, 09:19 AM

#18

Cujo665

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#1 - If you go to anything other than a wholly owned or Republic/Skywest then you aren’t paying attention to the industry.

#2 - If you’re already in at a Gojet, TSA, CommutAir etc... then get your hours and move on. If you’re new and starting out.... go back to #1

11-23-2019, 10:03 AM

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amcnd

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Never base your choice on current city pairs... routes change all the time between regionals and even mainline.

11-23-2019, 02:15 PM

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JulesWinfield

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Originally Posted by blindfayth

If you're going to have to commute, I'd say Endeavor is an easy choice. Don't have to worry about not getting to work.

Not really true. Getting your two options in can sometimes mean some dreadfully long days. (Show up at home base airport at 6am for a 2 leg commute for a trip that ends at midnight). There's also cancellations, weather delays, etc that add to the stress. For example, if you make your first option, it pushes back and does a gate return, which causes you to miss your second option, you won't get in trouble, but you will lose your day's worth of pay. Also, you always have to worry about getting home.

With that being said, I can't really recommend Endeavor right now. I am an early 2018 hire with around 500 FOs above me to upgrade. I am coming up on the 2 year mark pretty soon, and it seems like upgrade time for me will be about 4 years.. Our bottom guys are sitting around in NYC crashpads not flying. Our reserve time is about a year. For a commuter, this is absolute hell.

Our work rules are middle of the road. We have a great commuting policy, but commuting still sucks. Our pay is near the top for a regional, but if you factor in quicker upgrades at other places, you will definitely make more. We have no guaranteed career progression.