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BoldPilot 11-13-2019 05:45 AM

I don’t know why people spend the time to crunch these numbers when there are too many variables that would make significant changes. The moral of the story is get your apps filled out and network and maybe good things will come to you!

Karloffstall 11-13-2019 10:53 AM

Don’t forget Alaska which I think is around 350, which should just about cover attrition (not retirements)

Originally Posted by Voski (Post 2919223)
While speculative, I think you're definitely on to something. Even at rough estimates, it's about to get REALLY interesting for pilot hiring in the year ahead...

American: 1,200+ pilots
Delta: 1,300+ pilots
United: 1,200+ pilots
Southwest: 500+ pilots
JetBlue: 500+ pilots
FedEx: 600+ pilots
UPS: 300+ pilots
Spirit: 600+ pilots
Frontier: 300+ pilots
Allegiant: 100+ pilots
Epstein: didn't kill himself.

Just hiring in 2020 is looking like well north of 6,000 pilots are going to be hired next year alone.


No Land 3 11-14-2019 03:53 AM

There is a recession fast approaching

LoneStar32 11-14-2019 06:22 AM

How fast is fast because alarmist have been saying that for the past 4 years now.

climb150 11-16-2019 06:35 PM

On a average a US recession lasts 18 months. If it does come soon it will finish way before the retirements do.

V12Merlin 11-17-2019 10:12 AM

You can well bet the MAX fix is quick fast and in a hurry on its way. That, coupled with the planned retirements is gonna be a shocker to some of these bottom feeder dogsh!t carriers.

I’m still laughing.

And

No Land 3 11-17-2019 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 2923624)
How fast is fast because alarmist have been saying that for the past 4 years now.

I fly international cargo, which is usually a good first indication. Block hours are way down, sitting a lot more. Combination of tariffs, Hong Kong protests, and just a general global cooling of manufacturing demand. I hope I am wrong.

LoneStar32 11-18-2019 07:19 AM

See, my point is this. And this has become easy to spot since internet message boards became common place in the late 90s. Alarmist will scream "a recession is coming" every year, heck even every month. They will be wrong month after month, even year after year. Then one day it comes, as it always does because the economy is cyclical, and they will say "see I told you so" in their smug little alarmist face.

Same thing has been going on in these massage boards. You can go back in look, for the past 5 years this recession was supposed to be just around the corner. Just weeks or months away. There were signs out there. A lull in the housing market, interest rates were changing, Sears was going out of business. blah blah blah blah.

But you know what, I am going to say it too. The Recession is coming. Sometime within the next month to 10 years. And I will be right too. *smug face*

No Land 3 11-18-2019 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 2925726)
See, my point is this. And this has become easy to spot since internet message boards became common place in the late 90s. Alarmist will scream "a recession is coming" every year, heck even every month. They will be wrong month after month, even year after year. Then one day it comes, as it always does because the economy is cyclical, and they will say "see I told you so" in their smug little alarmist face.

Same thing has been going on in these massage boards. You can go back in look, for the past 5 years this recession was supposed to be just around the corner. Just weeks or months away. There were signs out there. A lull in the housing market, interest rates were changing, Sears was going out of business. blah blah blah blah.

But you know what, I am going to say it too. The Recession is coming. Sometime within the next month to 10 years. And I will be right too. *smug face*

I do believe that recessions are all human manipulated to trigger. People are poised to profit either way. I am selfishly waiting for a housing bubble to burst to acquire rental properties, and those with power and influence are preparing for it before they pull the trigger on it.

V12Merlin 11-18-2019 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by V12Merlin (Post 2925385)
You can well bet the MAX fix is quick fast and in a hurry on its way. That, coupled with the planned retirements is gonna be a shocker to some of these bottom feeder dogsh!t carriers.

I’m still laughing.

And

Look for the Dow to go north of 30,000 about the last quarter of next year
And see what that will do to the retirement numbers.

Does that suit you Tom?


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