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Old 12-14-2019, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyhawkie View Post

Republic
1) Possibly shorter reserve time
2) Not sitting in the airport on reserve all day
3) No junior manning
4) E175
5) Good quality of life
6) Better Pilot contract?
Minuses
1) 2 hour call out
2) Driving to LGA
3) Possibly longer upgrade to captain

I would greatly appreciate anymore I might have missed plus your thoughts and experiences.
At Republic you can upgrade around 18 months which is around how long it'll take to build 1000 121. Upgrade times have really come down over the past 6 months or so. Not sure about Envoy, but I know Endeavor guys who few less than 20 hours on reserve. That coupled with a long time on reserve make it hard to build time quickly. Last time I checked, in LGA and EWR bases, you'll only be on reserve a few months after hitting the line.
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Old 12-14-2019, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyhawkie View Post
Endeavor
Pluses
1) LGA & JFK base
2) Driving to JFK after a little seniority
3) 2 1/2 call out to JFK better than LGA
4) Highest pay for regional, at least that’s what they say
5) Good quality of life
6) CRJ 900
7) Delta interview
Minuses
1) Possibly longer reserve times
2) Possibly longer upgrade to captain

I would greatly appreciate anymore I might have missed plus your thoughts and experiences.
The co-terminal base at Endeavor can be a plus or a minus. Once you have a line and some seniority, you might even find that some of the LGA trips are better than JFK trips... or the drive could negate that. You can bid either way... there is an avoid LGA option in PBS.

No arguments on the pay or QOL, particularly once you're off reserve.

The 900 is nice, but in NYC, the 200 schedules are pretty good, and you might get senior on the plane quicker. YMMV.

The Delta interview is nice, but you've got it ranked in the correct place... it's a guaranteed interview, but hardly a guaranteed job.

Reserve and upgrade times are certainly longer for now than Republic. Upgrade times are probably longer than Envoy... don’t know about reserve.
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Old 12-14-2019, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver View Post
The co-terminal base at Endeavor can be a plus or a minus. Once you have a line and some seniority, you might even find that some of the LGA trips are better than JFK trips... or the drive could negate that. You can bid either way... there is an avoid LGA option in PBS.

No arguments on the pay or QOL, particularly once you're off reserve.

The 900 is nice, but in NYC, the 200 schedules are pretty good, and you might get senior on the plane quicker. YMMV.

The Delta interview is nice, but you've got it ranked in the correct place... it's a guaranteed interview, but hardly a guaranteed job.

Reserve and upgrade times are certainly longer for now than Republic. Upgrade times are probably longer than Envoy... don’t know about reserve.
Does Endeavor train you for both the 200 and 900 at the same time?
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Old 12-14-2019, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8 View Post
Republic averages over 33 pilots leaving each month. I'd be curious to see how many leave from Envoy outside of the flow. It may well be more than 13 (I'd bet it is, actually), but I also don't think it's so different as to be a relevant point one way or the other.

It's an interesting exercise, though!
Envoy lost 60 pilots last month to flow and outside attrition.
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Old 12-14-2019, 07:43 AM
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Envoy lost 60 pilots last month to flow and outside attrition.
Good info, thanks!
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Old 12-14-2019, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Envoy lost 60 pilots last month to flow and outside attrition.
60? That's insane. As for upgrade times at Envoy, its as soon as you hit 950 hours. They're gonna send you to the left seat as soon as you hit your minimums whether you're ready or not so soak up as much as you can!
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Old 12-14-2019, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyhawkie View Post
Envoy
Pluses
1) 3 hour call out
2) AA flow
3) Possibly shorter reserve times
4) Possibly faster upgrade to captain
Minuses
1) Driving to LGA (from South shore eastern Long Island)
2) Quality of life not as good as 2 others?
Envoy does have a LGA & JFK co-domicile as well. There is a bit less flying out of JFK than LGA though. Just pointing it out since you wrote that in the plusses for Endeavor for consistency
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Propeller View Post
Envoy does have a LGA & JFK co-domicile as well. There is a bit less flying out of JFK than LGA though. Just pointing it out since you wrote that in the plusses for Endeavor for consistency
Great to know, thank you. Now I’m even more undecided...
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Old 12-14-2019, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyhawkie View Post
Great to know, thank you. Now I’m even more undecided...
JFK flying is/was suppose to pick up quite a bit as well with a reduction of LGA flying. Just throw in an application with Envoy and Republic and see who bites first/offers an earlier class date. If they're within a couple weeks of each other, Envoy is honestly a great carrier which also seems to check all of your boxes. If they can't get you into class for a while and Republics offering something immediately, go ahead and start practicing "Brickyard" in the mirror.
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Old 12-14-2019, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by speedbrakearmed View Post
JFK flying is/was suppose to pick up quite a bit as well with a reduction of LGA flying. Just throw in an application with Envoy and Republic and see who bites first/offers an earlier class date. If they're within a couple weeks of each other, Envoy is honestly a great carrier which also seems to check all of your boxes. If they can't get you into class for a while and Republics offering something immediately, go ahead and start practicing "Brickyard" in the mirror.
Thank you, the hard part is I have offers from all 3 with the same class date. I wish I could work for all of them, ughhhhhhhh. Is the 175 really the cat’s meow of the regional jets?
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