SkyWest and Virgin Atlantic 747 near miss at LAX
05-13-2007, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellen
FAA probes new close call at LAX
Officials investigate an incident in which a landing aircraft nearly hit a plane that made a wrong turn on a taxiway Sunday.
By Jennifer Oldham, Times Staff WriterOfficials investigate an incident in which a landing aircraft nearly hit a plane that made a wrong turn on a taxiway Sunday.
May 12, 2007
The close call occurred after the SkyWest Embraer Brasilia landed on the outer runway and was instructed by an air traffic controller to turn left onto a taxiway. The Virgin Atlantic jet was in the air three miles behind the turboprop and closing fast. But stiff winds gusting to 33 mph slowed the smaller plane, which was arriving on a repositioning flight from Redding with only the two pilots aboard.
05-13-2007, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Outlaw2097
...is it just me or does it seem like skywest likes to create snafus at x-lax?
For the last year available (2005 I think), SkyWest did 11% of LAX's total operations.
So exposure to incidents is high at LAX.
In every other LAX runway incursion involving SkyWest in recent memory that I am aware of,
it was SkyWest who helped prevent the incident from being worse by aborting, or otherwise avoiding a collision.
In this case, I am familiar with that turn-off, and tower usually has late/no instructions on what they want, normal or reverse high speed.
Thank goodness everyone is safe.
05-15-2007, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Correct me if I'm wrong...but I believe SkyWest is the largest operator at LAX in terms of number of arrivals and departures. So of course they are more likely to be involved than other carriers.
Yes.
The pilots will not be fired unless they lie about it somehow, or were drunk...those are the two gotchas at SKW.
05-15-2007, 09:22 AM
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Actually the lesson here is to not allow the controller to rush you into doing something you're not clear about or prepared for, especially when you have the right-of-way.
05-15-2007, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Yes.
The pilots will not be fired unless they lie about it somehow, or were drunk...those are the two gotchas at SKW.
The pilots will not be fired unless they lie about it somehow, or were drunk...those are the two gotchas at SKW.
At least ALPA could fight for the pilots' jobs in situations like these.
I'm seriously interested in what recourse Skywest pilots have as a non-union carrier. Just how much power does the SPA (Skywest Pilot Association) have?
Who are the pilots going to go to if Skywest just fires them outright?
And one more thing.... note how since this is Skywest, it's only 2 pages long and people have said, "it could have happened to anyone."
I bet you $100 dollars that if it was Mesa, this thread would have been over 10 pages long, bashing Mesa, and saying how it was only the 250 hr wonder kid who caused this.
Bah!
