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On Autopilot 05-12-2007 11:53 AM

Comair about to lower thier mins to 300/100
 
Taken from an employee who works for Comair, they(Comair) will soon be lowering thier mins to 300/100. They have an CRJ Jet Transition course (for new hires) so save your money.

If you choose not to, those who take the ATP jet prep course and apply for Comair have no mins, aside from Com. MEL. INST. The Comair Gouge can be found on Aviation Interviews.com (like you didn't know) Keep your eyeballs peeled everyone,this is suppose to happen very,very soon.


Take Care.

Ellen 05-12-2007 11:58 AM

I've already made fliers to hand to paying passengers letting them know that their "Trusty" right seat driver is a 300TT pilot who had to practice more to get his/her driver's license than to fly a plane.

I can't wait to see their faces . . . ! They are going to SH!T.

On Autopilot 05-12-2007 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 164552)
I've already made fliers to hand to paying passengers letting them know that their "Trusty" right seat driver is a 300TT pilot who had to practice more to get his/her driver's license than to fly a plane.

I can't wait to see their faces . . . ! They are going to SH!T.

Ellen, somewhere in the world, a cow just farted.

rollercoaster 05-12-2007 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 164552)
I've already made fliers to hand to paying passengers letting them know that their "Trusty" right seat driver is a 300TT pilot who had to practice more to get his/her driver's license than to fly a plane.

I can't wait to see their faces . . . ! They are going to SH!T.

keep ticket prices low and they're happy. the majority cares less about pilot qualifications with today's reliable and automated equipment. it might be different if we had one pilot crews. I'd be more concerned with US carriers outsourcing maintenance to foreign countries where quality of maintenance is inferior to that performed in the US. the foreign mechanics' ability to put food on the table is a bigger concern than wondering if signing something off will eventually lead to a disaster.

my $.02 :)

BoilerUP 05-12-2007 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 164552)
I've already made fliers to hand to paying passengers letting them know that their "Trusty" right seat driver is a 300TT pilot who had to practice more to get his/her driver's license than to fly a plane.

"A 300TT pilot who had to practice more to get his/her driver's license than to fly a plane"? Wow, hyperbole much? You are aware there are folks in Europe and Asia who were brought into airline flying ab-initio flying narrowbody and widebody aircraft with as little as 250 hours, right?


I can't wait to see their faces . . . ! They are going to SH!T.
No they won't; Joe Public could care less. All they care about is safe passage from Point A to Point B at the lowest possible price, which at this point is exactly the product they are getting.

With the asinine statements you continually make on this boards you're either really naive to the realities of the airline industry or really, really bad at flamebait.

crewdawg 05-12-2007 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 164552)
I've already made fliers to hand to paying passengers letting them know that their "Trusty" right seat driver is a 300TT pilot who had to practice more to get his/her driver's license than to fly a plane.

I can't wait to see their faces . . . ! They are going to SH!T.

So....what's your point. Places like American were hiring guys with no time and training them into the right seat all the time circa 60s/70s. As long as ticket prices stay low I don't think the general public could care less.

While I'm not all for these low mins you need to get a grip woman! Although your posts are always good for a laugh. I have no idea what your problem is but here is a good solution.

http://users.rcn.com/eglandau/bunny_pancake.jpg

citationdrvrmob 05-12-2007 12:43 PM

Hmm... 300TT(or less) FO's... Throw that in with a 1500TT CA with only his solo cross countries for PIC (but he has 500 in type you say?....) and it sounds like a bad accident waiting to happen. Maybe then they might think it'd be worth paying reasonable wages to have some more experienced guys knock on their door.

cyrcadian 05-12-2007 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by citationdrvrmob (Post 164579)
Hmm... 300TT(or less) FO's... Throw that in with a 1500TT CA with only his solo cross countries for PIC (but he has 500 in type you say?....) and it sounds like a bad accident waiting to happen. Maybe then they might think it'd be worth paying reasonable wages to have some more experienced guys knock on their door.

Just for accuracy, Comair requires 3000TT and 500 hours at Comair to upgrade.

Sbaker1595 05-12-2007 01:02 PM

oh hell no , somone pulled out the pancake bunny.....own3d!

HSLD 05-12-2007 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 164575)
You are aware there are folks in Europe and Asia who were brought into airline flying ab-initio flying narrowbody and widebody aircraft with as little as 250 hours, right?

In the case of Luftansia and Air China Ab Initio programs, each airline pre-screens and test applicants BEFORE training starts. Then the company takes the pre-screened applicant from zero time to about 400 hours flight time (and hundreds more of ground instruction) that follows a very stringent and airline specific training profile.

From what I'm seeing in the current US regional airline hiring practices there are absolutely no parallels to established ab-initio programs. While I think many people understand ab-initio exists, I'm missing your point.

I'd agree that the traveling public is focused on ticket prices and leaflets won't do much, although what are YOU focused on? Do you really think that taking a 250 hour cessna pilot and throwing them into a jet in a high traffic 121 environment is the safest operation?

No doubt that this supply and demand curve is a wonderful opportunity for low-time pilots who want to pursue poverty level wages. I do think you'll see a lot of regional captains flying "single pilot" on many flights. No offense to the new guys - they just don't have the experience under current training rules to effectively do the job outside of normal ops. I'm certain that many new pilots are sharp, they just lack experience.

As working line pilots, how can we collectively balance the demands of inexperienced (albeit enthusiastic) new pilots with airlines who don't want to spend a penny more than required AND keep the operation safe?


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