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JoeyMeatballs 05-13-2007 07:45 AM

Obnoxious F/A's
 
Im off to ITALY in a few hours so I had to vent before I go...................Ill be without APC for two weeks:confused:

At FL370 on a YYZ to IAH 4 hr flight after about 2 hrs we had to DING the F/A because she obviously could care less about what we needed................after all we only had to be at the airport at the asscrack of dawn........... So after the first hour and half of her not asking us if we were ok the CA dings her and she says "Im in the back ill call you guys back"................she just hangs up so we wait until ohhhhhhhhhh I don;t know another 45 mins the CA dings her again the F/A sounds annoyed so she says WHAT DO YOU WANT, we asked for Coffee................she says oh well theres not to much left can you guys wait until we get on the ground, I dont feel like brewing another pot


1) Are you ******** kidding me?
2) I know the job of F/A isnt the easiest, but niether is asking your crew if they would like something to eat/drink???


I know its silly but garbage like this drives me crazy.................... anybody else have any miserable F/A stories.



oh and we never did get the COFFEE:mad:

FlyerJosh 05-13-2007 08:19 AM

No offense to your captain, but it sounds to me like he didn't exactly assert his position as the captain.

Of course as pilots, we need to understand that it's a two way street. I've seen a lot of flight crews treat their FA's like crap. I learned early on that it's best to have a good working relationship with the cabin, and to set/establish expectations and standards from the start of the trip.

I never had an issue with a FA, but I also made sure that they were throughly briefed and knew that they had the flight crews full support. As such, 99% of them always took care of us FIRST.

Short Bus Drive 05-13-2007 08:30 AM

4 HOUR FLIGHT IN AN ERJ?!!!!!!:eek:

Outlaw2097 05-13-2007 08:32 AM

i know i was about to say the same thing...how did you make it through that gauntlet?

JoeyMeatballs 05-13-2007 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Outlaw2097 (Post 164934)
i know i was about to say the same thing...how did you make it through that gauntlet?

Looked at FROMERS Italy tour guide hehe, and the CA was a SHE, hell on IOE I did YYZ to IAH, followed by IAH to PSP (Palm Springs, CA) its was pretty out there though

DMEarc 05-13-2007 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 164935)
Looked at FROMERS Italy tour guide hehe, and the CA was a SHE, hell on IOE I did YYZ to IAH, followed by IAH to PSP (Palm Springs, CA) its was pretty out there though

Sure sounds like mainline flights to me...

belliott 05-13-2007 10:06 AM

I had an FA throw up on me the other day... she wasn't obnoxious... but ughhh!

Slaphappy 05-13-2007 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 164933)
4 HOUR FLIGHT IN AN ERJ?!!!!!!:eek:

No kidding the erj makes the crj look like a jumbo jet

dojetdriver 05-13-2007 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 164920)
Im off to ITALY in a few hours so I had to vent before I go...................Ill be without APC for two weeks:confused:


Thnak god for us.

4N1flyr 05-13-2007 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by belliott (Post 164980)
I had an FA throw up on me the other day...

Don't you have to pay extra for that?:D

flynavyj 05-13-2007 11:44 AM

saab,

if those are the type of flights you guys are doing at expressjet, i feel sorry for ya, i just about kill myself on 2+ hour flights in the ERJ. Comment about the CRJ is a joke though, both airplanes make a porta-potty look large.

on the topic of flight attendants, their primary duty is to assist the passengers in an emergency, everything else is essentially "extras" good flight attendants will get the crew something to eat or drink, great ones load the passengers correctly so you don't have to have them move some. I've never gotten ****ed however if one didn't ask me what type of stuff i needed to pamper myself more, if i really want something, i just ask them for it.

mike734 05-13-2007 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 164920)
the F/A because she obviously could care less about what we needed.

Have her replaced at the next hub. I'm not kidding. If she will not cooperate, have her replaced. Now then, it is always best to stay on their good side. You never know what might end up in your coffee. BTW this is just one of the reasons it is nice to have more than one FA.

schone 05-13-2007 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 164920)
I know its silly but garbage like this drives me crazy.................... anybody else have any miserable F/A stories.

If it was that essential, why didn't you guys go fetch something else to drink yourselves...? call it a bathroom break and grab a can. It mustn't be another item they need to teach in indoc do they?

Training really makes you lose common sense huh?.... if it ain't in the book, we can't do it.

When was the last time you offered to grab the flight attendent's suit case down the stairway on a slippery night after it's been raining outside, just to make sure she doesn't slip on it...?

N6724G 05-13-2007 12:24 PM

After you ****ed off the FA do you really want coffee from her?

belliott 05-13-2007 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by 4N1flyr (Post 165040)
Don't you have to pay extra for that?:D

I hope not.... and after that experience yeah I don't think so... not a great way to meet someone!

captainkudzu 05-13-2007 01:18 PM

Once when I was an FO, we had the FA call during sterile cockpit while we were descending into PIT to tell us the temperature was too hot. Later on the ground, while I was doing the walkaround, the captain told her not to call during sterile cockpit with trivial things. When I got back in the airplane, they were having a full-scale shouting match.

She was an older FA with an attitude problem to begin with.

Flatspin7 05-13-2007 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by captainkudzu (Post 165088)
Once when I was an FO, we had the FA call during sterile cockpit while we were descending into PIT to tell us the temperature was too hot. Later on the ground, while I was doing the walkaround, the captain told her not to call during sterile cockpit with trivial things. When I got back in the airplane, they were having a full-scale shouting match.

She was an older FA with an attitude problem to begin with.


He should just kick her in the Jimmie!

freezingflyboy 05-13-2007 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 164962)
Sure sounds like mainline flights to me...

Define mainline flight. TUL-IAH is flown by mainline. Isn't that an Express flight?:rolleyes: The only thing that makes a mainline flight a mainline flight is what airplane flies it.

ghilis101 05-13-2007 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 165058)
After you ****ed off the FA do you really want coffee from her?


yea seriously, unless you like visine in your coffee

DMEarc 05-13-2007 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 165100)
Define mainline flight. TUL-IAH is flown by mainline. Isn't that an Express flight?:rolleyes: The only thing that makes a mainline flight a mainline flight is what airplane flies it.

I agree, swap legs.

BoilerUP 05-13-2007 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by schone (Post 165047)
If it was that essential, why didn't you guys go fetch something else to drink yourselves...?

Quoted for friggin' truth.

Quit being such a d-bag and if you want something, simply call the FA and ask for it. I cannot believe you'd waste time whining that the FA didn't ask you if you wanted anything. GMAFB...:rolleyes:

groovinaviator 05-13-2007 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 165185)
Quoted for friggin' truth.

Quit being such a d-bag and if you want something, simply call the FA and ask for it. I cannot believe you'd waste time whining that the FA didn't ask you if you wanted anything. GMAFB...:rolleyes:

Agreed.

I had a FA tell me to stay out of "her" galley... I was just off OE and was pretty intimidated by her (i got over that really fast). She was such a treat to fly with :mad:. I hate when flight attendants refer to things as "my"... "my crew", "my galley", "my lav", "my airplane"... get a life.

Here's an idea... we should turn this thread in a direction of discussing fun and creative ways to annoy FA's... not that any of us would try to annoy the FA ;)... any thoughts?

ImperialxRat 05-13-2007 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 165185)
Quoted for friggin' truth.

Quit being such a d-bag and if you want something, simply call the FA and ask for it. I cannot believe you'd waste time whining that the FA didn't ask you if you wanted anything. GMAFB...:rolleyes:

Guess you mis-read the part where he said they did call her?

BoilerUP 05-14-2007 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 165265)
Guess you mis-read the part where he said they did call her?

Yeah...but only after Saab got all torqued up and whiny about it...


Originally Posted by SAABarroowski
At FL370 on a YYZ to IAH 4 hr flight after about 2 hrs we had to DING the F/A because she obviously could care less about what we needed................


sflpilot 05-14-2007 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by groovinaviator (Post 165242)
Agreed.

I had a FA tell me to stay out of "her" galley... I was just off OE and was pretty intimidated by her (i got over that really fast). She was such a treat to fly with :mad:. I hate when flight attendants refer to things as "my"... "my crew", "my galley", "my lav", "my airplane"... get a life.

Here's an idea... we should turn this thread in a direction of discussing fun and creative ways to annoy FA's... not that any of us would try to annoy the FA ;)... any thoughts?

WTF, it's the captain's airplane as per FAR. Nothing on there belongs to the FA's.

CL65driver 05-14-2007 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 165347)
Yeah...but only after Saab got all torqued up and whiny about it...

that's SAAB, you should be used to it by now... :p

It's gonna be a quiet 2 weeks around here... thank god!! :D

rickair7777 05-15-2007 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by schone (Post 165047)
If it was that essential, why didn't you guys go fetch something else to drink yourselves...? call it a bathroom break and grab a can. It mustn't be another item they need to teach in indoc do they?

Training really makes you lose common sense huh?.... if it ain't in the book, we can't do it.

When was the last time you offered to grab the flight attendent's suit case down the stairway on a slippery night after it's been raining outside, just to make sure she doesn't slip on it...?

Physiological needs such as water (and caffiene depending on the duty schedule) are actually pretty important. Dehydration is know to cause significant cognitive impairment, and the air is VERY dry in those airliners.

Airline pilots can't just wander back and use the head and grab a drink on the way...an FA has to occupy the cockpit in place of the pilot, so if she didn't have time to hand up a coke, she probably didn't have time to hang out up front either.

Actually on a 4 hour flight, there would be no reason she wouldn't have time...the CA should have just ordered her to serve the crew. Four hours is too long to ignore physiological needs. If she declined, kick her @ss off the plane on the next turn.

On rare occasions I'll help an FA with her bag but it's not practical to do it all the time. The ones that have problems with luggage are usually new, and they just need to learn (the hard way) to pack light and configure their bags ergonomically.

rickair7777 05-15-2007 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 165140)
yea seriously, unless you like visine in your coffee

That doesn't happen much post 9/11. An FA (NWA ?) got sent to the federal pen for putting something of a laxative nature in a pilot's drink which incapacitated him in flight.

schone 05-15-2007 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 166061)
Physiological needs such as water (and caffiene depending on the duty schedule) are actually pretty important. Dehydration is know to cause significant cognitive impairment, and the air is VERY dry in those airliners.

Airline pilots can't just wander back and use the head and grab a drink on the way...an FA has to occupy the cockpit in place of the pilot, so if she didn't have time to hand up a coke, she probably didn't have time to hang out up front either.

Actually on a 4 hour flight, there would be no reason she wouldn't have time...the CA should have just ordered her to serve the crew. Four hours is too long to ignore physiological needs. If she declined, kick her @ss off the plane on the next turn.

On rare occasions I'll help an FA with her bag but it's not practical to do it all the time. The ones that have problems with luggage are usually new, and they just need to learn (the hard way) to pack light and configure their bags ergonomically.

Rickair:

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, really needed it. Tho, the message that I was trying to get across was to get over his child like whining and get real, if dehydration was the problem, something tells me that could have been remedied by the bottle of water these gals usually leave for each of us before the pax even bother to come on board. Also, note that in the original post it was her lack of aptitude to make coffee for them that have made Saab go off the wall for nothing.

Also, pointing out the suitcase issue was not to show a matter of practicality but rather to point out that while Saab expects the FA to tend to his needs, I am almost positive he has never bothered to do the same for anyone. Also, since when being a gentleman, and more over that a human been considered an added curriculum to our jobs description. Also please note I have pointed it out on a rainy day to make sure a lady doesn't slip on the airplane's steps.

Nothing like returning a favour and pointing out the obvious.

When did you guys all become even bigger primadonnas than the ladys working in the back of our airplanes?... no wonder aviation is not what it used to be, pilots def. contribute thier fair share to that! yuck.

ExperimentalAB 05-15-2007 07:55 PM

Hoooly cow you guys are wicked testy around here...everyone here is just chompin' at the bit to bring somebody down LoL.

We're all on the same side, remember?!

metrodriver 05-15-2007 09:22 PM

one two three four I declare thumb war:D


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