Best Regional NYC Envoy, Endeavor or Republic
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Republic and Endeavor are great companies to work for with decent QOL but one of their biggest issues is that there isn't as much movement at those companies due to a lack of CPP/Aviate/Flow/DGI, whatever you want to call it these days. Envoy may not have the best work rules but every month (as long as AA is hiring) there's a constant skimming of the top 20 guys at the company which means movement on the seniority list and quick upgrades. At 950 hours they'll upgrade you whether you'd like to or not. Additionally JFK/LGA is fairly junior so you will get it right out of class or within 2-3 months worst comes to worst. Envoy also only runs the 140/145 out of NYC so if chasing the 175 or CRJ is your dream then Envoy's not going to work.
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Republic and Endeavor are great companies to work for with decent QOL but one of their biggest issues is that there isn't as much movement at those companies due to a lack of CPP/Aviate/Flow/DGI, whatever you want to call it these days. Envoy may not have the best work rules but every month (as long as AA is hiring) there's a constant skimming of the top 20 guys at the company which means movement on the seniority list and quick upgrades. At 950 hours they'll upgrade you whether you'd like to or not. Additionally JFK/LGA is fairly junior so you will get it right out of class or within 2-3 months worst comes to worst. Envoy also only runs the 140/145 out of NYC so if chasing the 175 or CRJ is your dream then Envoy's not going to work.
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Of the three mentioned, only Envoy guarantees you a job at AA if you aren’t hired elsewhere first.
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Nothing in life is guaranteed. Do you have very decent shot of getting to AA, absolutely, but until you're sitting at AA indoc nobody really knows. As far as CRJ v 175 v 145. The 175 is obviously the better plane than the 145 or CRJ (yes even the -900). Is it really that much better to a point to pick one company over another....thats for you to decide. What I will say is Envoy's 145 flying out of NYC is pretty decent in terms of the type of flying they do. No 4-5 leg days and flight are usually 1.5 hours+
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Thank you everyone for all of the valuable information. Can anyone chime in on how long the current reserve time is on the 3 that I mentioned? I have heard that Endeavor was longer than the other 2 but was curious by how much.
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Endeavor's reserve is long, and Endeavor has a glut of 2017 hires who are holding things up movement-wise. It's not a bad airline, but it's not a good pick for time-building and upgrades right now.
Republic has a lot of the same pay/QOL perks as Endeavor (and some better), but it doesn't have the same glut of pilots.
Envoy QOL is by far the worst of the three, and you can probably get a job somewhere else before you flow in nine years. Unless AA is your goal, it isn't worth it.
Republic has a lot of the same pay/QOL perks as Endeavor (and some better), but it doesn't have the same glut of pilots.
Envoy QOL is by far the worst of the three, and you can probably get a job somewhere else before you flow in nine years. Unless AA is your goal, it isn't worth it.
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