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Old 02-17-2020, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by UpWeGo View Post
I definitely will be asking if invited to interviews.
Might ask that AFTER you get a job offer, or just ask pilots online. That's not a great question for an interview from someone who already has a training failure.
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Old 02-17-2020, 11:13 AM
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Might ask that AFTER you get a job offer, or just ask pilots online. That's not a great question for an interview from someone who already has a training failure.
Makes better sense, you’re correct.
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:36 PM
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I’d look into XJT. I went from CFI to jet with their training. It was AQP and the instructors were great. If you’ve got a good attitude and make progress they’re not going to cut you loose. They’re not going to give you unlimited opportunities, but, they’ll do their best with you if you put in the effort. If you got specific questions please feel free to PM me.
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:04 PM
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I’d look into XJT. I went from CFI to jet with their training. It was AQP and the instructors were great. If you’ve got a good attitude and make progress they’re not going to cut you loose. They’re not going to give you unlimited opportunities, but, they’ll do their best with you if you put in the effort. If you got specific questions please feel free to PM me.
I like what I hear about XJTs training but not being able to afford a crash pad and we don’t wish to move the family to any of the current hubs y’all have not really an option unfortunately.
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:43 PM
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Its very unlikely that they chose not to re-train you as the result of “one bad day”. Unless it was one REALLY bad day. I can’t think of a single regional that is actively sending people home for simply busting a checkride. There has to be more to the story, not that I am saying you are being untruthful. Has a member of the training department had a talk with you about your progress prior to failing this checkride? If you are indeed friendly with some of the instructors I would recommend asking if there is something about your overall performance during training that you might be missing.

Good news is that this shouldnt be much of an issue for you going forward as long as you continue to own up to your shortcomings and seek to prepare yourself as much as possible for future opportunities.
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:51 PM
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Its very unlikely that they chose not to re-train you as the result of “one bad day”. Unless it was one REALLY bad day. I can’t think of a single regional that is actively sending people home for simply busting a checkride. There has to be more to the story, not that I am saying you are being untruthful. Has a member of the training department had a talk with you about your progress prior to failing this checkride? If you are indeed friendly with some of the instructors I would recommend asking if there is something about your overall performance during training that you might be missing.

Good news is that this shouldnt be much of an issue for you going forward as long as you continue to own up to your shortcomings and seek to prepare yourself as much as possible for future opportunities.
It wasn’t one bad day. I failed the check ride for the same reason I had to repeat a sim prior to the check ride, sure I mentioned that somewhere. My progress was obviously not what they wanted it to be, but that’s on me not them. They did their job on my retrain sim and I wasn’t able to perform when it counted. I plan on speaking with one sometime this week so hopefully he’ll give me better insight like you said.
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Thought I’d bring this thread back to life for a short period vs starting a new one. Guidance/advice again would be appreciated.

Thinking about applying to places again but again I need to ask, would companies in today’s environment even look at me with my previous failure? I’d like to give it one more shot. I managed to fly some right seat in a Phenom getting the opportunity to work on what I struggled with at my previous regional. I know I’ll never be on a wide body and with all the hiring the legacies are doing seems like they’ll have all the Pilots they will need in the next 2-3yrs to cover retirements. Maybe they’ll still be hiring, who knows. If I can get a chance somewhere, upgrade(successfully) and get on with a ULCC I’d be lucky and happy.

Attainable or has that time come and gone?
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Old 11-04-2021, 07:46 PM
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Thought I’d bring this thread back to life for a short period vs starting a new one. Guidance/advice again would be appreciated.

Thinking about applying to places again but again I need to ask, would companies in today’s environment even look at me with my previous failure? I’d like to give it one more shot. I managed to fly some right seat in a Phenom getting the opportunity to work on what I struggled with at my previous regional. I know I’ll never be on a wide body and with all the hiring the legacies are doing seems like they’ll have all the Pilots they will need in the next 2-3yrs to cover retirements. Maybe they’ll still be hiring, who knows. If I can get a chance somewhere, upgrade(successfully) and get on with a ULCC I’d be lucky and happy.

Attainable or has that time come and gone?
The one failure, as a first-time 121 trainee is not that big of a deal. Just don't make a habit of it. Regionals are hiring, and so are majors right now... that should peak in a few years but there will still be plenty of retirements into the next decade.
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The one failure, as a first-time 121 trainee is not that big of a deal. Just don't make a habit of it. Regionals are hiring, and so are majors right now... that should peak in a few years but there will still be plenty of retirements into the next decade.
it will be something you will have to explain. I did some instructing work at the legacy I’m at now and have seen guys have 7-8 retrains and still get them through. However, these are the guys we want to avoid hiring. If you can fess up and and admit you were at fault and explain how it won’t happen again, you should get your shot. As Rick said, don’t make a habit out of more failures.
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Old 11-06-2021, 01:38 PM
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I appreciate the replies and advice, best wishes to you all!
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